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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: linux-acpi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Untangling the sleep hotkey mess
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:52:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060107205232.GA6445@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060107192444.GA21915-GgQh6P/XBPa901fzNV2Eubv56P54cF3WWmv/VHan8Is@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:24:44PM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 05:24:46PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > a) Hal should assume that all hardware has a sleep key, since there's no 
> > way to actually tell.
> 
> Why bring Hal into this equation?

Because, over time, applications are likely to start worrying about what 
hal thinks in this respect. gnome-power-manager already listens for hal 
events related to the sleep button.

> > b) Events generated in cases (1) and (2) should, for now, be caught by 
> > acpid (or something similar) and then fed back into the input layer via 
> > uinput. This should be scancode 142, which will end up as X keycode 223.
> 
> And how would this work for users who doesn't have Hal installed?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. This is entirely independent 
of hal.

> Having ACPI hotkey events delivered as normal keyboard input makes it
> difficult to run system scripts as root:root.

But that does nothing to help systems which only expose sleep keys via 
the keyboard controller. It's not practical to get them to generate ACPI 
events - however, it /is/ practical to get ACPI events to generate input 
events. At that point there's nothing to stop a hotkey daemon running as 
root.
-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-07 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-07 17:24 Untangling the sleep hotkey mess Matthew Garrett
     [not found] ` <20060107172446.GA3092-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-07 19:24   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
     [not found]     ` <20060107192444.GA21915-GgQh6P/XBPa901fzNV2Eubv56P54cF3WWmv/VHan8Is@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-07 20:52       ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20060107205232.GA6445-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-07 21:01           ` Henrik Brix Andersen
     [not found]             ` <20060107210103.GA5961-GgQh6P/XBPa901fzNV2Eubv56P54cF3WWmv/VHan8Is@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-07 21:14               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-01-08 12:58 ` [gpm] " Richard Hughes
2006-01-08 13:47   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]     ` <20060108134744.GA21538-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-08 14:13       ` Richard Hughes
2006-01-09  1:10         ` Yu Luming
2006-01-09  1:21           ` Richard Hughes
2006-01-09  1:14         ` Richard Hughes
2006-01-09  5:07           ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]             ` <200601090007.43578.dtor_core-yWtbtysYrB+LZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-09  5:24               ` Matthew Garrett
2006-01-09  9:43               ` Richard Hughes
     [not found]             ` <20060109052407.GA4213@srcf.ucam.org>
     [not found]               ` <20060109052407.GA4213-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-09  6:09                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                   ` <200601090109.05791.dtor_core-yWtbtysYrB+LZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org>
2006-01-09  9:44                     ` Richard Hughes

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