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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	"Lincoln Dale (ltd)" <ltd@cisco.com>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Steinar H. Gunderson" <sgunderson@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 000 of 5] md: Introduction
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:45:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060123104522.GE2366@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060123103851.GY2801@redhat.com>

On 2006-01-23T11:38:51, Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com> wrote:

> > Ok, I still didn't get that. I must be slow.
> > 
> > Did you implement some DM-internal stacking now to avoid the above
> > mentioned complexity? 
> > 
> > Otherwise, even DM-on-DM is still stacked via the block device
> > abstraction...
> 
> No, not necessary because a single-level raid4/5 mapping will do it.
> Ie. it supports <offset> parameters in the constructor as other targets
> do as well (eg. mirror or linear).

An dm-md wrapper would not support such a basic feature (which is easily
added to md too) how?

I mean, "I'm rewriting it because I want to and because I understand and
own the code then" is a perfectly legitimate reason, but let's please
not pretend there's really sound and good technical reasons ;-)


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée

-- 
High Availability & Clustering
SUSE Labs, Research and Development
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - A Novell Business	 -- Charles Darwin
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	"Lincoln Dale (ltd)" <ltd@cisco.com>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Steinar H. Gunderson" <sgunderson@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 000 of 5] md: Introduction
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:45:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060123104522.GE2366@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060123103851.GY2801@redhat.com>

On 2006-01-23T11:38:51, Heinz Mauelshagen <mauelshagen@redhat.com> wrote:

> > Ok, I still didn't get that. I must be slow.
> > 
> > Did you implement some DM-internal stacking now to avoid the above
> > mentioned complexity? 
> > 
> > Otherwise, even DM-on-DM is still stacked via the block device
> > abstraction...
> 
> No, not necessary because a single-level raid4/5 mapping will do it.
> Ie. it supports <offset> parameters in the constructor as other targets
> do as well (eg. mirror or linear).

An dm-md wrapper would not support such a basic feature (which is easily
added to md too) how?

I mean, "I'm rewriting it because I want to and because I understand and
own the code then" is a perfectly legitimate reason, but let's please
not pretend there's really sound and good technical reasons ;-)


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée

-- 
High Availability & Clustering
SUSE Labs, Research and Development
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - A Novell Business	 -- Charles Darwin
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"


  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-23 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-17 21:38 [PATCH 000 of 5] md: Introduction Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2006-01-17 21:38 ` Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2006-01-18 13:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-18 23:19   ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19 15:33     ` Mark Hahn
2006-01-19 15:33       ` Mark Hahn
2006-01-19 20:12     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-19 21:22       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-19 21:22         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-19 22:17     ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-19 22:32       ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19 23:26         ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-19 23:43           ` Neil Brown
2006-01-20  2:17             ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-20 10:53               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-20 10:53                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-20 12:06                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-20 18:38                 ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-20 18:38                   ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-20 22:09                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-20 22:09                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-21  0:06                     ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-21  0:06                       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-20 18:41               ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-20 17:29             ` Ross Vandegrift
2006-01-20 17:29               ` Ross Vandegrift
2006-01-20 18:36             ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-20 22:57               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-20 22:57                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-21  0:01                 ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-21  0:01                   ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-21  0:03                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-21  0:03                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-21  0:08                     ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-21  0:08                       ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-21  0:13                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-23  9:44                         ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 10:26                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-23 10:38                             ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 10:38                               ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 10:45                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2006-01-23 10:45                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-23 11:00                                 ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 11:00                                   ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 12:54                           ` Ville Herva
2006-01-23 12:54                             ` Ville Herva
2006-01-23 13:00                             ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2006-01-23 13:54                             ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2006-01-23 17:33                               ` Ville Herva
2006-01-23 17:33                                 ` Ville Herva
2006-01-24  2:02                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-24  7:26                               ` Error message for invalid initramfs cpio format? Ville Herva
2006-01-20  7:51         ` [PATCH 000 of 5] md: Introduction Reuben Farrelly
2006-01-20  3:43           ` Andre' Breiler
2006-01-21  0:42             ` David Greaves
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-20 18:05 Hubert Tonneau
2006-01-20 17:01 Hubert Tonneau
2006-01-20 16:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-22  6:45   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-01-20 16:48 Hubert Tonneau
2006-01-17  6:56 NeilBrown
2006-01-17  8:17 ` Michael Tokarev
     [not found]   ` <fd8d0180601170121s1e6a55b7o@mail.gmail.com>
2006-01-17  9:38     ` Francois Barre
2006-01-19  0:35       ` Neil Brown
2006-01-17  9:50   ` Sander
2006-01-17 11:26     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-01-17 11:37       ` Francois Barre
2006-01-17 14:03       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-19  0:28         ` Neil Brown
2006-01-17 16:08       ` Ross Vandegrift
2006-01-17 16:08         ` Ross Vandegrift
2006-01-17 18:12         ` Michael Tokarev
2006-01-17 18:12           ` Michael Tokarev
2006-01-18  8:14           ` Sander
2006-01-18  8:14             ` Sander
2006-01-18  8:37             ` Brad Campbell
2006-01-18  9:03             ` Alan Cox
2006-01-18 12:46             ` John Hendrikx
2006-01-18 12:51               ` Gordon Henderson
2006-01-18 23:51                 ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19  7:20                   ` PFC
2006-01-19  8:01                     ` dean gaudet
2006-01-18 23:54               ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19  0:22           ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19  0:22             ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19  9:01             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-01-19  9:01               ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-01-17 22:38       ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-17 22:57         ` Neil Brown
2006-01-17 14:10   ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2006-01-17 15:07 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2006-01-19  0:23   ` Neil Brown
2006-01-22  4:42 ` Adam Kropelin
2006-01-22 22:52   ` Neil Brown
2006-01-23 23:02     ` Adam Kropelin
2006-01-23 23:02       ` Adam Kropelin
2006-01-23  1:08 ` John Hendrikx
2006-01-23  1:25   ` Neil Brown
2006-01-23  1:54     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-23  2:09     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2006-01-23  2:33       ` Neil Brown

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