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From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 5/5] fix sn rw_mmr.h to use intrinsic
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:18:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060202141821.GA30929@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601270137.k0R1big21236@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 04:39:23AM -0500, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> >>>>> "Tony" = Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> writes:
> 
> Tony> On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:19:35AM +0000, Christoph Hellwig
> Tony> wrote:
> >> Agreed.  Obsfucating for a propritary and pretty much irrelevant
> >> (for the kernel) compiler is a horrible thing to do.  And the only
> >> reason we do that at all is that the compiler is from the same
> >> company that's behind ia64.  Please fix up your damn compiler.
> >> Even SGI managed to add proper inline as?embly support to Pro64,
> >> and they had much less ressources.
> 
> Tony> How about we un-obfuscate the code by moving these three
> Tony> functions to a ".S" file?  They are reading from uncached
> Tony> physical memory, and are packed full of "srlz.i" and
> Tony> ".acq"/".rel" options, so it doesn't appear that moving them
> Tony> from inline to a full procedure call would make any measurable
> Tony> difference to performance (at least not for any macrobenchmark).

Sounds like a reasonable idea. I'll post the patch within a week. Is that
quick enough?


> 
> Tony,
> 
> We could do this in this particular case, but it doesn't solve the
> fundamental problem. What we really need is Intel showing that it will
> fix it's broken compilers once and for all if Intel wishes to continue
> compiling the kernel with it.
> 
> The way it is right now, it means users who make the mistake of
> compiling with ICC ends up exercising different codepaths than what
> everybody else runs. This makes bug reports and benchmark results
> meaningless.
> 
> What I don't understand is why this is so much more difficult for
> Intel's compiler team to fix when several other, and much smaller,
> teams haven't found it a problem to resolve it in the past.
> 
> Tony> pio_phys_read_mmr() isn't even used anyplace, so we could
> Tony> further clarify the code by dropping it altogether.
> 
> I don't know if there's code in the pipeline which expects to use
> this function. Anyone knows?

Nothing in the pipeline. I don't know of any longterm plans to use the 
function.  If we find a reason, the function is trivial to reinvent & 
add to the assembly function that contains the other function.


-- 
Thanks

Jack Steiner (steiner@sgi.com)          651-683-5302
Principal Engineer                      SGI - Silicon Graphics, Inc.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-02 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-27  1:37 [patch 5/5] fix sn rw_mmr.h to use intrinsic Chen, Kenneth W
2006-01-27  3:57 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-01-27  9:57 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-01-27 23:35 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-01-31 10:57 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-01-31 11:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-31 18:08 ` Luck, Tony
2006-02-02  9:39 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-02 14:18 ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2006-02-02 18:54 ` Luck, Tony
2006-02-02 21:01 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-03 23:40 ` Gerald Pfeifer

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