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From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Grant Coady <gcoady@gmail.com>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6 vs 2.4, ssh terminal slowdown
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:17:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060208051709.GE11380@w.ods.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nutiu1dkoldca31ddusfbd2rv41q7q0k3m@4ax.com>

Hi Grant,

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 03:51:24PM +1100, Grant Coady wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:00:59 +1100, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> 
> >This is the terminal's fault. xterm et al use an algorithm to determine how 
> >fast your machine is and decide whether to jump scroll or smooth scroll. This 
> >algorithm is basically broken with the 2.6 scheduler and it decides to mostly 
> >smooth scroll.
> 
> Strange it does that over localnet to a PuTTY terminal on windoze.
> 
> Seems a strange thing to do in the kernel though, presentation 
> buffering / management surely can be done in userspace?

I suspect the sshd on the firewall gets woken up for each line and it
behaves exactly like an xterm. After having done a lot of "ls -l|cat"
on 2.6, I'm not surprized at all :-/

A good test would be to strace sshd under 2.4 and 2.6. You could even
use strace -tt. Probably that you will see something like 1 ms between
two reads on 2.6 and nearly nothing between them in 2.4.

> Grant.

Cheers,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-08  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08  2:11 2.6 vs 2.4, ssh terminal slowdown Grant Coady
2006-02-08  2:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-08  2:50   ` Grant Coady
2006-02-08  3:02     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-08  2:35 ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-08  2:55   ` Grant Coady
2006-02-08  3:00     ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-08  4:12       ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-08  4:41         ` Grant Coady
2006-02-08  4:51       ` Grant Coady
2006-02-08  5:17         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2006-02-08  5:39           ` Grant Coady
2006-02-08  7:43       ` Lee Revell
2006-02-09 17:06   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-09 20:06     ` Lee Revell
2006-02-10  6:35       ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-12 13:47         ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-12 19:03           ` Lee Revell
2006-02-12 21:36             ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-12 23:23               ` Lee Revell
2006-02-12 23:39               ` Lee Revell
2006-02-13  3:09                 ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  3:39                   ` Lee Revell
2006-02-13  4:59                     ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  5:05                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-13  5:32                         ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  5:37                           ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-13  5:57                             ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  6:08                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-13  6:35                                 ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  6:38                                   ` Lee Revell
2006-02-13  7:08                                     ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  8:43                                       ` Lee Revell
2006-02-13 10:06                                         ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13 12:35                                         ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-15  4:22                                           ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15  5:22                                             ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-15  6:11                                               ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15  7:17                                                 ` MIke Galbraith
2006-02-13  7:15                                   ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-13  7:41                                     ` MIke Galbraith

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