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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] collect security labels on user processes	generating audit messages
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:41:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602151141.42778.sgrubb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1140021440.14253.411.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>

On Wednesday 15 February 2006 11:37, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > It creates parsing problems without a value. If I saw "tty="  and that's
> > all, I'd think the audit system malfunctioned and file a bugzilla. I
> > don't want that.
>
> OTOH, if I see (null), I tend to assume a bug in the code.  Isn't it
> saner to just omit the name=value pair altogether if the value is NULL?

No, cause then I have non-normalized records.

> Otherwise, you are adding extra processing on the generation and parsing
> side for no benefit, along with wasting space in the audit message.

There is a benefit...no missing fields means that the record is normalized. 
This is a required step before we create a binary format record. 

There are performance benefits in the kernel as well as user space. The kernel 
doesn't have to have an "if" statement with 2 nearly identical calls to 
audit_log_format or 2 back to back calls to the same function adding a new 
piece of info. 

In userspace, I can parse it faster since I don't have to backtrack and 
re-parse from the last good token to look for the next field after deciding 
one is missing.

-Steve

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-16 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-09  1:32 [RFC][PATCH] collect security labels on user processes generating audit messages Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 14:58 ` James Morris
2006-02-09 15:10   ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-02-09 15:15   ` James Morris
2006-02-09 17:43     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-09 16:13   ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 17:03     ` James Morris
2006-02-09 17:39       ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-09 17:29     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-09 18:13     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-10  0:14   ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-10  4:00     ` James Morris
2006-02-13 19:12     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-14 23:48       ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 13:47         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 15:49           ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:14             ` Linda Knippers
2006-02-15 16:22               ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-15 16:37                 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 16:41                   ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2006-02-15 16:58                     ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 18:33                   ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 17:17                 ` Linda Knippers
2006-02-15 18:14                   ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-15 18:20                   ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 14:56                     ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 15:29                       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-16 15:35                         ` Steve Grubb
2006-02-16 16:27                           ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-16 19:03                   ` Lamont R. Peterson
2006-02-16 20:44                     ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:17             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 16:41               ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-15 16:38                 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-15 21:05         ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-02-17 20:58           ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-22 14:21             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-22 17:14               ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-02-22 14:26             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-02-22 17:13               ` Timothy R. Chavez

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