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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler?
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:19:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602210819.57740.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F9E95A.6080103@cfl.rr.com>

On Monday 20 February 2006 8:07 am, Phillip Susi wrote:
> 
> And this is exactly how non USB hardware has behaved for eons, and it 
> hasn't been a problem. 

How many billions of years exactly?  :)

Of course it sometimes _has_ been a problem.  Repeating your claim
doesn't make it true.  And the user model of USB was certainly so
those problems could be _prevented_ rather than continued forever
into new generations of hardware.

The fact that MS-DOS did something does not make it a good idea.


> >>> But yes, you're right ... if he's serious about
> >>> changing all that stuff, he also needs stop being a
> >>> member of the "never submitted a USB patch" club.
> >>> Ideally, starting with small things.
> >>
> >> You're moving off into left field.
> > 
> > Not hardly.  Unless all you're doing here is flaming?
> > One point of $SUBJECT was that flames were _over_ ...
> 
> Left field is where flames are, which is what the comment was that I was 
> replying to -- a flame.

This is LKML.  Pointing out when patches are overdue
can't realistically be taken as a flame; it's a
standard way of moving beyond discussion to action.
(Or helping someone self-educate about issues they
won't see until they, too, look more deeply ...)

However, responding to a "request for patch" in that
way certainly does come across as a flame.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-21 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-13 19:16 Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? David Brownell
2006-02-13 20:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  3:10   ` David Brownell
2006-02-14  6:05     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 17:04       ` David Brownell
2006-02-15 23:43   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 20:51     ` David Brownell
2006-02-19  6:06       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20  5:50         ` David Brownell
2006-02-20 16:07           ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 16:51             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 18:20               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 18:44                 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 21:45                   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-21 16:19             ` David Brownell [this message]
2006-02-21 18:30               ` Phillip Susi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-12 16:57 Alan Stern
2006-02-13  0:51 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13  2:19   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13  3:52     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13  5:43       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-13 16:40         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 16:31       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 17:14         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 20:04           ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 20:38             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 21:24               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 19:26                   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 19:26                     ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 20:41                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 20:41                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 21:08                       ` Lee Revell
2006-02-14 21:08                         ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15 15:56                       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-15 15:56                         ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:51                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-02-13 23:47                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  0:50                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14  2:09                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14  4:09                       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14  4:28                         ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14  5:11                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 15:33                             ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14  6:27                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 16:23                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 18:39                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:55                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 21:13                                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 23:32                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-15  3:08                                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:14                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:37                               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-17 21:04                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 16:34                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-18 17:29                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19  5:52                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  9:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 16:35                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:41                               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 19:17                                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 19:43                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  0:56                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20  1:01                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  1:26                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20  4:04                                           ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:16                                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-02-18 21:04                     ` Alan Stern
2006-02-18 21:04                       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19  0:02                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  0:02                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  6:02                         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  6:02                           ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  6:32                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  6:32                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 16:39                             ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:39                               ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:54                               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 16:54                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:02                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:02                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:44                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 20:44                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 21:02                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 21:02                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  6:55                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-20  7:29                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:57                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:57                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-14 14:15     ` hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
2006-02-15 23:51     ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-13  2:25   ` Kyle Moffett

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