From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Shawn Pearce Subject: Re: Errors GITtifying GCC and Binutils Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <20060323204825.GE30176@spearce.org> References: <20060322133337.GU20746@lug-owl.de> <44223B90.3040500@zytor.com> <1143128751.6850.35.camel@neko.keithp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: sean , keithp@keithp.com, hpa@zytor.com, jbglaw@lug-owl.de, git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Mar 23 21:49:11 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FMWjp-0004IL-Il for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:48:58 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422685AbWCWUsx (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422692AbWCWUsx (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:53 -0500 Received: from corvette.plexpod.net ([64.38.20.226]:19400 "EHLO corvette.plexpod.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422685AbWCWUsv (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:51 -0500 Received: from cpe-72-226-60-173.nycap.res.rr.com ([72.226.60.173] helo=asimov.home.spearce.org) by corvette.plexpod.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FMWjE-0002e6-0B; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:20 -0500 Received: by asimov.home.spearce.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51A2320FB89; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:48:25 -0500 (EST) To: Linus Torvalds Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - corvette.plexpod.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - spearce.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, sean wrote: > > > > lol, that sounds like a really good plan. Perhaps as a two pronged effort > > its worth changing the notion that git is primarily "plumbing". Adding > > some of the nice features of cogito and other "porcelains" into the core > > git might go a ways toward converting the few naysayers we don't kill. > > Actually, as far as I can tell, git already has a hell of a lot more > porcelain than pretty much any non-IDE type traditional SCM. Certainly > more than CVS. > > Yeah, I'm not counting things like Eclipse etc. I'm talking about "plain > SCM" environments, ie just basic SVN or CVS. What are we missing in that > department? (The only thing I can think of is a diff colorizer, which some > prople seem to really want). A pretty native point-and-click Windows GUI so Windows users can use GIT without knowing how to actually use their computer. :-) I'm not trying to bash Windows users. I'm just saying that there's definately a large user base for SCMs such as CVS who just want to check in the latest version of a file they have to maintain. Many of these people are afraid of a command prompt. Asking them to install Cygwin just to check in a file is a difficult challenge. And even if a user is perfectly comfortable with a command prompt and could write one-line scripts faster than anyone else, sometimes users just prefer a GUI interface. qgit probably comes close in this department but hasn't been packaged up into a pretty Windows installer. :-) But your definately right; once the blame/annotate war settles out GIT will have pretty much everything one might need - except a good distributed bug/issue tracking type system. :-) -- Shawn.