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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc: Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Stultz, John" <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: RT task scheduling
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 12:51:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060407105141.GA9972@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060407103926.GC11706@gnuppy.monkey.org>


* Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:19:46AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > -ENOPARSE. CPU binding brings with itself obvious disadvantages that 
> > some applications are not ready to pay. CPU binding restricts the 
> > scheduler from achieving best resource utilization. That may be fine for 
> > some applications, but is not good enough for a good number of 
> > applications. So in no way can any 'CPU binding mechanism' (which 
> > already exists in multiple forms) replace the need and desire for a 
> > globally scheduled class of RT tasks.
> 
> You're discussing a different problem than what I'm talking about. 
> [...]

no, i'm discussing precisely the point you raised:

>>> You should consider for a moment to allow for the binding of a 
>>> thread to a CPU to determine the behavior of a SCHED_FIFO class task 
>>> instead of creating a new run category. [...]

with the observation that 1) binding is already possible [so your 
suggestion is apparently knocking on open doors] 2) binding is a 
separate mechanism (not adequate for all workloads) and it is thus 
orthogonal to what i'm trying to achieve with the "RT overload" stuff.  
Really simple and straightforward observations i think.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-07 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-06  3:25 RT task scheduling Darren Hart
2006-04-06  4:19 ` Peter Williams
2006-04-06 17:24   ` Darren Hart
2006-04-06 23:02     ` Peter Williams
2006-04-06  7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-06 14:55   ` Darren Hart
2006-04-06 18:16   ` Darren Hart
2006-04-06 22:35     ` Darren Hart
2006-04-07 22:58       ` Vernon Mauery
2006-04-06 23:06   ` Peter Williams
2006-04-07  3:07   ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07  7:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-07  8:39       ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07  9:11         ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07  9:19         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-07 10:39           ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07 10:51             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-04-07 11:14               ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07 11:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-07 22:18                   ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07 14:56             ` Darren Hart
2006-04-07 21:06               ` Bill Huey
2006-04-07 22:37                 ` Darren Hart
2006-04-07 23:36                   ` Bill Huey
2006-04-08  3:01                     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-08  4:28                       ` Vernon Mauery
2006-04-08  4:45                         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-04-08  7:16                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-08  7:25                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-08  7:54                     ` Bill Huey
2006-04-08  8:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-08 10:02                         ` Bill Huey
2006-04-08  0:11   ` Peter Williams
2006-04-07  9:23 ` Bill Huey
2006-04-09 13:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-04-09 17:25   ` Darren Hart
2006-04-09 18:31     ` Ingo Molnar

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