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From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@de.ibm.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi,
	ioe-lkml@rameria.de, joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390: Hypervisor File System
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 23:49:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060502214908.GB18192@vrfy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060502213043.GB30957@kroah.com>

On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 02:30:43PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:48:42AM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> > On May 2, 2006, at 00:00:53, Greg KH wrote:
> > >On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:29:23PM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> > >>So my question stands:  What is the _recommended_ way to handle  
> > >>simple data types in low-bandwidth/frequency multiple-valued  
> > >>transactions to hardware?  Examples include reading/modifying  
> > >>framebuffer settings (currently done through IOCTLS), s390 current  
> > >>state (up for discussion), etc.  In these cases there needs to be  
> > >>an atomic snapshot or write of multiple values at the same time.   
> > >>Given the situation it would be _nice_ to use sysfs so the admin  
> > >>can do it by hand; makes things shell scriptable and reduces the  
> > >>number of binary compatibility issues.
> > >
> > >I really don't know of a way to use sysfs for this currently, and  
> > >hence, am not complaining too much about the different /proc files  
> > >that have this kind of information in it at the moment.
> > >
> > >If you or someone else wants to come up with some kind of solution  
> > >for it, I'm sure that many people would be very happy to see it.
> > 
> > Hmm, ok; I'll see what I can come up with.  Would anybody object to  
> > this kind of API (as in my previous email) that uses an open fd as a  
> > transaction "handle"?
> 
> No, I think Kay played around with something like using the open fd of
> the directory as such a lock (or was he using flock on it, I can't
> remember now...)

If you can assume that processes accessing the values are cooperative,
it already works without any changes:

  $ time flock /sys/class/firmware echo 1 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout
  real    0m0.005s

  $ flock /sys/class/firmware sleep 5&
  [1] 6468

  $ time flock /sys/class/firmware echo 1 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout
  real    0m3.558s

Kay

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-02 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-28  9:22 [PATCH] s390: Hypervisor File System Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28  9:43 ` Jörn Engel
2006-04-28 11:53   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 15:48     ` Jörn Engel
2006-04-28  9:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-28 17:36   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 17:43     ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02  8:06       ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 19:44     ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-28 10:36 ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-04-28 13:14   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-29  6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-29  7:51   ` Greg KH
2006-04-29  8:14     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-03  8:48       ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 22:10         ` Greg KH
2006-05-04 10:22           ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-04 14:42             ` Greg KH
2006-05-04 15:01               ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-04 15:34                 ` Greg KH
2006-04-29  7:53 ` Greg KH
2006-04-29  8:41   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-29 21:55     ` Greg KH
2006-04-30  5:18       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-01 20:38         ` Greg KH
2006-05-01 23:29           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-02  4:00             ` Greg KH
2006-05-02  5:23               ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02  5:37                 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 11:46                   ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02 21:28                     ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 21:33                       ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02 21:54                         ` Greg KH
2006-05-02  8:48               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-02 21:30                 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 21:49                   ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2006-05-02 23:18                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-03  9:33     ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03  9:42       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-05-03 12:11         ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 12:33           ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 12:51             ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 13:00               ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 13:18                 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 13:22                   ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 13:38                     ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 14:17                       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-05-03 14:23                         ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 14:58                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-05-03 15:22                             ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 15:54                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-03 10:01       ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02 10:12   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-02 13:00   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03  8:45   ` Michael Holzheu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-28 17:37 Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 17:47 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02  7:25   ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-05 13:22 Michael Holzheu
2006-05-05 21:14 ` Greg KH
2006-05-08 12:24 Michael Holzheu
2006-05-09  5:01 ` Greg KH

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