From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030498AbWFIVKX (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:10:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030496AbWFIVKW (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:10:22 -0400 Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:23257 "EHLO rgminet01.oracle.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030489AbWFIVKT (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:10:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:09:34 -0700 From: Joel Becker To: Dave Jones , Theodore Tso , Jeff Garzik , Alex Tomas , Andrew Morton , ext2-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] [RFC 0/13] extents and 48bit ext3 Message-ID: <20060609210934.GH3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Theodore Tso , Jeff Garzik , Alex Tomas , Andrew Morton , ext2-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger References: <44898EE3.6080903@garzik.org> <448992EB.5070405@garzik.org> <4489A7ED.8070007@garzik.org> <20060609195750.GD10524@thunk.org> <20060609203803.GF3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20060609205036.GI7420@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060609205036.GI7420@redhat.com> X-Burt-Line: Trees are cool. X-Red-Smith: Ninety feet between bases is perhaps as close as man has ever come to perfection. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:50:36PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 01:38:03PM -0700, Joel Becker wrote: > > that the older code cannot read. Alex claims people just shouldn't use > > "-o extents", but the fact is their distro will choose it for them. > > .. on partitions over a certain size, which couldn't be read with > older ext3 filesystems _anyway_ Certainly that would be fine. Is that what will actually happen? Experience says no. Even if you get it right in your distro, not all distros will. Heck, can you promise me that your distro will provide e2fsprogs updates to its older releases so that multiboot will continue to work? Joel -- "Behind every successful man there's a lot of unsuccessful years." - Bob Brown Joel Becker Principal Software Developer Oracle E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com Phone: (650) 506-8127 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joel Becker Subject: Re: [RFC 0/13] extents and 48bit ext3 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:09:34 -0700 Message-ID: <20060609210934.GH3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> References: <44898EE3.6080903@garzik.org> <448992EB.5070405@garzik.org> <4489A7ED.8070007@garzik.org> <20060609195750.GD10524@thunk.org> <20060609203803.GF3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20060609205036.GI7420@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: To: Dave Jones , Theodore Tso , Jeff Garzik , Alex Tomas , Andrew Morton , ext2-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060609205036.GI7420@redhat.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ext2-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: ext2-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 04:50:36PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 01:38:03PM -0700, Joel Becker wrote: > > that the older code cannot read. Alex claims people just shouldn't use > > "-o extents", but the fact is their distro will choose it for them. > > .. on partitions over a certain size, which couldn't be read with > older ext3 filesystems _anyway_ Certainly that would be fine. Is that what will actually happen? Experience says no. Even if you get it right in your distro, not all distros will. Heck, can you promise me that your distro will provide e2fsprogs updates to its older releases so that multiboot will continue to work? Joel -- "Behind every successful man there's a lot of unsuccessful years." - Bob Brown Joel Becker Principal Software Developer Oracle E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com Phone: (650) 506-8127