From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: rohitseth@google.com
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:14:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606230014.17067.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1151010387.14536.39.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com>
> Would sgdt not be sufficient? I agree that we will have to end up
> giving RO access to user for the gdt page.
I meant exporting the GDT page
> I agree that we should not overload a single call (though cpu, package
> and node numbers do belong in one category IMO). We can have multiple
> calls if that is required as long as there is an efficient mechanism to
> provide that information.
The current mechanism doesn't scale to much more calls, but I guess
i'll have to do a vDSO sooner or later.
> Why maintain that extra logic in user space when kernel can easily give
> that information.
It already does.
> > I've been pondering to put some more information about that
> > in the ELF aux vector, but exporting might work too. I suppose
> > exporting would require the vDSO first to give a sane interface.
> >
> Can you please tell me what more information you are thinking of putting
> in aux vector?
One proposal (not fully fleshed out was) number of siblings / sockets / nodes
I don't think bitmaps would work well there (and if someone really needs
those they can read cpuinfo again)
This is mostly for OpenMP and tuning of a few functions (e.g. on AMD
the memory latencies varies with the number of nodes so some functions
can be tuned in different ways based on that)
> You are absolutely right that the mechanism I'm proposing makes sense
> only if we have more fields AND if any of those fields are dynamically
> changing. But this is a generic mechanism that could be extended to
> share any user visible information in efficient way. Once we have this
> in place then information like whole cpuinfo, percpu interrupts etc. can
> be retrieved easily.
The problem with exposing too much is that it might be a nightmare
to guarantee a stable ABI for this. At least it would
constrain the kernel internally. Probably less is better here.
Also I'm still not sure why user space should care about interrupts?
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-22 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-21 7:27 [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 17:38 ` Artur Skawina
2006-06-28 5:44 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-28 8:53 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-28 9:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-29 8:47 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-21 9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 21:54 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 22:59 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 23:18 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:29 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 0:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-22 8:08 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 21:06 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-22 22:14 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-06-22 23:10 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-23 12:42 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-24 2:06 ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-24 8:42 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27 1:13 ` Rohit Seth
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-21 12:24 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21 17:14 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-21 17:50 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 12:23 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-22 12:44 ` Andi Kleen
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