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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: "Miller, Mike (OS Dev)" <Mike.Miller@hp.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Neela.Kolli@engenio.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	fastboot@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] kdump: cciss driver initialization issue fix
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:22:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060626172246.GH8985@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E717642AF17E744CA95C070CA815AE550E1555@cceexc23.americas.cpqcorp.net>

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 11:51:52AM -0500, Miller, Mike (OS Dev) wrote:
[..]
> > 
> > 
> > kdump or taking crash dumps using the kexec on panic 
> > mechanism could be called a drivers worst nightmare.  In the 
> > latest distros this is becoming the way crash dump style 
> > information is captured.
> > 
> > Because the initial kernel is broken we do a jump into 
> > another kernel that is sufficient to record a crash dump.  
> > That second kernel initializes the hardware from whatever 
> > random state the first kernel left the drivers in.  That 
> > first kernel is not permitted to do any device shutdown activities.
> > 
> > The problem is that a command the running instance of the 
> > driver did not initiate completes.  At least if I read Vivek 
> > patch 2/2 correctly.
> > 
> > So we have three options.
> > - reset the card during initialization.
> > - handle the case of a command we did not initiate completing.
> > - mark the driver/card as impossibly hopeless for use in a crash
> >   dump scenario.
> > 
> > 
> > Eric
> 
> Thanks Eric, that helps me understand. Section 8.2.2 of the open cciss
> spec supports a reset message. Target 0x00 is the controller. We could
> add this to the init routine to ensure the board is made sane again but
> this would drastically increase init time under normal circumstances.
> And I suspect this is a hard reset, also. Not sure if that would
> negatively impact kdump.

As long as driver is able to initialize the device and continue working
kdump is not impacted whether it is a hard reset or soft reset.

Thanks
Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-26 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-23 21:01 [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] introduce crashboot kernel command line parameter Vivek Goyal
2006-06-23 21:04 ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] kdump: cciss driver initialization issue fix Vivek Goyal
2006-06-24  6:55   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24 11:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-24 11:30       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24 12:08         ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-24 17:13           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-24 17:13             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26  2:11             ` [Fastboot] " Maneesh Soni
2006-06-26 13:35               ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 14:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 14:17                   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 15:32                   ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 16:00                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 16:13                       ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 16:13                         ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 16:35                         ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 16:35                           ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 16:38                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 16:38                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 16:51                           ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 16:51                             ` [Fastboot] " Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 17:04                             ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 17:04                               ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 17:24                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 17:24                                 ` [Fastboot] " Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 17:22                             ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2006-06-26 17:52                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 17:52                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 18:18                               ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 18:18                                 ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 18:51                               ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 18:51                                 ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 19:21                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 19:21                                   ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 19:43                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 19:43                                     ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 21:24                                   ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 21:24                                     ` Miller, Mike (OS Dev)
2006-06-26 19:36                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 17:16                       ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-26 17:31                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 17:31                           ` [Fastboot] " Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 17:39                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 17:39                           ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 17:56                           ` James Bottomley
2006-06-26 17:56                             ` [Fastboot] " James Bottomley
2006-06-26 18:23                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-26 18:23                               ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-27  2:42                   ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/2] kdump: cciss driver initialization?issue fix Horms
2006-06-27  2:42                     ` Horms
2006-06-26  9:09             ` Horms
2006-06-26  9:09               ` Horms
2006-06-26 13:45               ` [Fastboot] " Vivek Goyal
2006-06-27  2:30                 ` Horms
2006-06-23 21:30 ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/2] introduce crashboot kernel command line parameter Bernd Eckenfels
2006-06-23 22:39   ` Vivek Goyal
2006-06-24  6:55 ` Andrew Morton

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