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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: pj@sgi.com, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, jlan@engr.sgi.com,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, csturtiv@sgi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hadi@cyberus.ca,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch][RFC] Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:56:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060630155612.36189ced.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44A57310.3010208@watson.ibm.com>

Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Based on previous discussions, the above solutions can be expanded/modified to:
> 
> a) allow userspace to listen to a group of cpus instead of all. Multiple
> collection daemons can distribute the load as you pointed out. Doing collection
> by cpu groups rather than individual cpus reduces the aggregation burden on
> userspace (and scales better with NR_CPUS)
> 
> b) do flow control on the kernel send side. This can involve buffering and sending
> later (to handle bursty case) or dropping (to handle sustained load) as pointed out
> by you, Jamal in other threads.
> 
> c) increase receiver's socket buffer. This can and should always be done but no
> involvement needed.
> 
> 
> With regards to taskstats changes to handle the problem and its impact on userspace
> visible changes,
> 
> a) will change userspace
> b) will be transparent.
> c) is immaterial going forward (except perhaps as a change in Documentation)
> 
> 
> I'm sending a patch that demonstrates how a) can be done quite simply
> and a patch for b) is in progress.
> 
> If the approach suggested in patch a) is acceptable (and I'll provide the testing, stability
> results once comments on it are largely over), could taskstats acceptance in 2.6.18 go ahead
> and patch b) be added later (solution outline has already been provided and a prelim patch should
> be out by eod)

Throwing more CPUs at the problem makes heaps of sense.

It's not necessarily a userspace-incompatible change.  As long as userspace
sets nl_pid to 0x00000000, future kernel revisions can treat that as "all
CPUs".  Or userspace can be forward-compatible by setting nl_pid to
0xffff0000, or whatever.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-30 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09  7:41 [Patch][RFC] Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09  8:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 10:51   ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-09 11:21     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 13:20       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 18:25         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 19:12           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 15:36       ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-09 18:35         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 19:31           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 21:56       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 22:42         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 23:22           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 23:47             ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 23:56               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 12:21               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-12 18:31                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-12 21:57                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-10 13:05               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-12 18:54                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:11         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:14           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:34             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 23:35               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 23:45                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 17:14                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 18:19                   ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 18:53                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 20:00                       ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 20:16                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 20:36                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 21:19                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 22:07                     ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 23:47                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24  2:59                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-24  4:39                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24  5:59                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 17:33                               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-26 17:52                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 17:55                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:00                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 18:12                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:26                                       ` Jay Lan
2006-06-26 18:39                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:49                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 19:00                                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-28 21:30                                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-28 21:53                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-28 22:02                                               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-29  8:40                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 12:30                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-06-29 16:44                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 18:01                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 18:07                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 18:26                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:15                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:41                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 21:42                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 21:54                                                                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-29 22:09                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 22:23                                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  0:15                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  0:40                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  1:00                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:05                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
     [not found]                                                                   ` <44A46C6C.1090405@watson.ibm.com>
2006-06-30  0:38                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:21                                                                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:46                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  2:54                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  3:02                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:22                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:10                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:10                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:23                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:33                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 19:43                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:43                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 20:00                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 22:13                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 22:13                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 23:00                                                                   ` jamal
2006-06-29 20:01                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 20:01                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 21:22                                                               ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 22:54                                                               ` jamal
2006-06-30  0:38                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  0:38                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:05                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30  1:11                                                                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:11                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:30                                                                       ` jamal
2006-06-30  3:01                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  3:01                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 12:45                                                                           ` jamal
2006-06-30  2:25                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:35                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30  2:43                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:33                                                         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-30 18:53                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 18:53                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:10                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:10                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:19                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:19                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 20:19                                                             ` jamal
2006-06-30 22:50                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01  2:20                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  2:20                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  2:43                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01  3:37                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  3:37                                                                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  3:51                                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-03 21:11                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 21:41                                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04  0:13                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04  0:38                                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 20:19                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04 20:22                                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04  0:54                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04  1:01                                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 13:05                                                                             ` jamal
2006-07-04 15:18                                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 16:37                                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:24                                                                                   ` jamal
2006-07-05 14:09                                                                                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 14:09                                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 20:25                                                                                       ` Chris Sturtivant
2006-07-05 20:25                                                                                         ` Chris Sturtivant
2006-07-05 20:32                                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 20:32                                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03  4:53                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 15:02                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 15:55                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 16:31                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04  0:09                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:59                                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-05 17:20                                                                         ` Jay Lan
2006-07-05 17:20                                                                           ` Jay Lan
2006-07-05 18:18                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 18:18                                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 22:56                                                           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-06-29 18:05                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-29 12:42                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-24  3:08                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 20:38           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 21:31             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 21:45               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 21:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 22:19                   ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 21:59                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 15:55 ` Chris Sturtivant

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