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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Andy Gay <andy@andynet.net>
Cc: Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rdreier@cisco.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: RDMA will be reverted
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 01:01:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607050101.12476.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152051753.3285.600.camel@tahini.andynet.net>


> My point wasn't really about performance here, more that systems needing
> this level of performance (server farm is just an example) will probably
> be on an 'inside' network with firewalling being done elsewhere (at the
> access layer, to use the Cisco paradigm). It's just not good design to
> attach such systems directly to an untrusted network, IMHO. So these
> systems just don't need netfilter capabilities.

Don't think of the highend. It is exotic and rare.

Think of the ordinary single linux box somewhere at a rackspace provider which 
represents the majority of Linux boxes around. 

With a not too skilled admin who mostly uses the default settings of his configuration.
For that running firewalling on the same box makes a lot of sense.

Normally it is not that loaded and it doesn't matter much how it performs,
but it might be occasionally slashdotted and then it should still hold up.

BTW basic firewalling is not really that bad as long as you don't have too many
rules. Mostly conntrack is painful right now. I'm sure at some point it will
be fixed too.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-04 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-28  7:07 RDMA will be reverted David Miller
2006-06-28  7:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-28 14:56 ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-28 15:01 ` Steve Wise
2006-06-29 16:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-29 17:32   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 17:35     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-29 17:40       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 19:46   ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:11     ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:16       ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:19       ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:47         ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:53           ` David Miller
2006-06-29 21:28             ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 21:25         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-29 20:42       ` James Morris
2006-06-30 20:51     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-30 21:16       ` David Miller
2006-06-30 23:01         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-01 14:26           ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 18:34             ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 20:47               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 22:22                 ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 23:01                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-07-04 23:48                     ` Andy Gay
2006-07-05  0:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-24 22:06               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 23:10                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-24 23:22                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:02                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  0:29                       ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  0:45                         ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:55                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:04                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:21                             ` David Miller
2006-07-25 16:29                               ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25 16:32                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:03                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:42                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  5:51                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:48                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:59                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  7:33                       ` David Miller
2006-07-25  7:42                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-05 17:09             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-05 17:50               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:25                 ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:47                   ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-24 22:23               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:57                 ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-01 21:45           ` David Miller
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-05 18:27               ` David Miller
2006-07-05 20:29                 ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-06  3:03                   ` David Miller
2006-07-06  5:25                     ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-06 14:08                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-06 17:36                         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  0:03                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-07  0:32                             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  6:53                       ` David Miller
2006-07-07  8:11                         ` What is RDMA (was: RDMA will be reverted) Herbert Xu
2006-07-07 18:25                           ` Steve Wise
2006-07-11  8:17                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-11 13:27                               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:29                           ` What is RDMA David Miller
2006-07-24 22:34                             ` Rick Jones
2006-07-24 22:39                               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:49                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-07 13:29                         ` RDMA will be reverted Tom Tucker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-06 13:26 Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-25 19:59 Tom Tucker

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