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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, klibc@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [klibc 30/31] Remove in-kernel resume-from-disk invocation code
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:28:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607061328.16376.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44AC7F46.3050204@zytor.com>

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Hi.

On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:11, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > Hi again.
> >
> > (Excuse me replying to myself, but this might help someone else).
> >
> > On Thursday 06 July 2006 11:45, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> >> Is there a klibc howto somewhere? I tried googling for 'klibc howto',
> >> reading the files in Documentation/ and browsing your klibc mailing list
> >> archive before asking!
> >>
> >> What I'm wondering specifically is: Say a user needs to run some
> >> commands to set up access to encrypted storage before they can resume.
> >> At the moment, we'd tell them to put these commands and the echo >
> >> do_resume in their linuxrc (or init) script prior to mounting their root
> >> filesystem. Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question but it's not
> >> immediately obvious to me how they would now do that. I'd much rather
> >> follow a simple howto than spend a good amount of time tracing function
> >> calls etc. I still see init/initramfs.c, and it mentions both
> >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM. Would I be right in
> >> surmising that you can still have an initrd or ramfs to do such things
> >> as the above, after klibc has done its work? If not, is there some other
> >> way I'm ignorant of?
> >
> > For the record, I've since discovered that what you really want is an
> > initramfs howto. I think I stuck with those old-fangled initrds for too
> > long. Better update my desktop from Mandrake 10 too :)... is there a
> > pattern here?
>
> Okay, let's try to start from the beginning...
>
> initramfs is, indeed, a replacement for initrd, but it's not a 1:1 map.
>   Instead, initramfs contents -- which can come from multiple sources!
> -- is simply extracted right into rootfs.
>
> kinit is a replacement for the in-kernel root-handling code, as well as
> other related in-kernel code like resume from disk.  It is compiled as a
> monolithic binary for size reasons.
>
> klibc is a very small C library which *can* be used to produce initramfs
> binaries; in particular, it's used to produce kinit, and is small enough
> that it can be realistically included with the kernel distribution.
>
> If you provide your own /init in an initramfs, it will override the
> default, which is /init -> /kinit.  You can then choose to invoke kinit
> if you want to; for example, you could try to resume from suspend2, and
> invoke kinit if that fails.

Ah... ok. That helps a lot.

Thanks!

Nigel
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Cobden 3266
Victoria, Australia

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-06  3:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-28  5:17 [klibc 00/31] klibc as a historyless patchset (updated and reorganized) H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 01/31] Add klibc/kinit to MAINTAINERS file H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 02/31] Main Makefile changes for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 03/31] Core klibc code H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 04/31] alpha support for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 15:43   ` Richard Henderson
2006-06-28 15:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 05/31] arm " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 06/31] cris " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 07/31] i386 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  7:37   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-28 15:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 16:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29  0:14       ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29  0:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 23:43           ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29 23:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-30  0:23               ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-30  1:28                 ` [klibc] " Aaron Griffin
2006-06-30 13:56                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 08/31] ia64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 09/31] m32r " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 10/31] m68k " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 11/31] mips " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 12/31] mips64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 13/31] parisc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 14/31] ppc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 15/31] ppc64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 16/31] s390 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 17/31] sh " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 18/31] sparc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 19/31] sparc64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 20/31] x86_64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 21/31] Simple test suite " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 22/31] zlib " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 23/31] kinit: replacement for in-kernel do_mount, ipconfig, nfsroot H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 24/31] klibc basic build infrastructure H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 25/31] Miscellaneous utilities for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 26/31] dash - a small POSIX shell " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 27/31] A port of gzip to klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 28/31] sparc64: transmit arch-specific options to kinit via /arch.cmd H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 29/31] sparc32: transfer arch-specific options to /arch.cmd H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 30/31] Remove in-kernel resume-from-disk invocation code H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-05 23:40   ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-05 23:58     ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-06  0:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-06  0:37       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06  0:54         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-06  1:45           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06  2:18             ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06  3:11               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-06  3:28                 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-07-06 10:26             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]             ` <200607061028.k66AS8UB012207@smtp.micromuse.com>
2006-07-06 10:58               ` IBM spam Re: " Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 13:02                 ` Sean Young
2006-07-06  8:31       ` [klibc] " maximilian attems
2006-07-06  8:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28  5:17 ` [klibc 31/31] Remove in-kernel root-mounting code H. Peter Anvin

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