From: vojtech@suse.cz (Vojtech Pavlik)
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>,
Michael Hanselmann <linux-kernel@hansmi.ch>
Subject: [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS,
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:31:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060707093138.GD11026@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060707024603.GC22666@khazad-dum.debian.net>
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:46:04PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > > >We are investigating the ACPI global lock as a way to at least get the
> > > >SMBIOS to stay away from the EC while we talk to it, but we don't know if
> > > >the entire SMBIOS firmware respects that lock.
> > >
> > > It had better, that is exactly what the ACPI Global Lock is supposed to
> > > prevent (concurrent access to non-sharable resources between the OS and
> > > SMI code). The ACPI DSDT contains information on whether or not the
> > > machine requires the Global Lock in order to access the EC or whether it
> > > is safe to access without locking.
> >
> > Isn't that vaild only if you actully use ACPI to access the EC? (AFAIK
> > the HDAPS driver does direct port access.)
>
> It better be valid for any OS-side access to the EC, otherwise the ACPI
> global lock would be utterly useless. The system vendor would have done its
> own "global-lock-like" functionality without the need for an ACPI global
> lock specification.
That's what I fear does happen on many systems.
> What is not clear to me is whether an ACPI DSDT method is on the "OS side"
> or on the "SMM side" of the ACPI global lock.
No idea, sorry.
--
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs
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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>,
Michael Hanselmann <linux-kernel@hansmi.ch>
Subject: Re: Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:31:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060707093138.GD11026@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060707024603.GC22666@khazad-dum.debian.net>
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:46:04PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006, Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
> > > >We are investigating the ACPI global lock as a way to at least get the
> > > >SMBIOS to stay away from the EC while we talk to it, but we don't know if
> > > >the entire SMBIOS firmware respects that lock.
> > >
> > > It had better, that is exactly what the ACPI Global Lock is supposed to
> > > prevent (concurrent access to non-sharable resources between the OS and
> > > SMI code). The ACPI DSDT contains information on whether or not the
> > > machine requires the Global Lock in order to access the EC or whether it
> > > is safe to access without locking.
> >
> > Isn't that vaild only if you actully use ACPI to access the EC? (AFAIK
> > the HDAPS driver does direct port access.)
>
> It better be valid for any OS-side access to the EC, otherwise the ACPI
> global lock would be utterly useless. The system vendor would have done its
> own "global-lock-like" functionality without the need for an ACPI global
> lock specification.
That's what I fear does happen on many systems.
> What is not clear to me is whether an ACPI DSDT method is on the "OS side"
> or on the "SMM side" of the ACPI global lock.
No idea, sorry.
--
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs
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[not found] ` <fa.qLWuLxQd7Mhcnixy/TLVs/nPwig@ifi.uio.no>
2006-07-05 23:59 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Robert Hancock
2006-07-05 23:59 ` Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...) Robert Hancock
2006-07-06 6:19 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-06 6:19 ` Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...) Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-07 2:46 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-07 2:46 ` Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-07 5:28 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Robert Hancock
2006-07-07 5:28 ` Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...) Robert Hancock
2006-07-07 9:31 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2006-07-07 9:31 ` Vojtech Pavlik
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2006-07-07 1:40 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Robert Hancock
2006-07-03 12:48 [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, ...) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-04 7:59 ` [lm-sensors] Generic interface for accelerometers (AMS, HDAPS, Pavel Machek
2006-07-04 16:23 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-04 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-05 7:34 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-07-05 13:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-07-06 1:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-05 7:59 ` Jean Delvare
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