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From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Lisa Week <Lisa.Week@sun.com>,
	nfsv4@ietf.org, Sam Falkner <Sam.Falkner@sun.com>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Spencer Shepler <spencer.shepler@sun.com>,
	Brian Pawlowski <beepy@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Re: NFSv4 ACL and POSIX interaction / mask, draft-ietf-nfsv4-acls-00 not ready
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:48:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607110248.37374.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060711002826.GB1440@fieldses.org>

On Tuesday, 11. July 2006 02:28, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 02:01:42AM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> > The issue is that you sometimes want to give the owning group fewer
> > perissions than say, user:bfields in the above example. You can only do
> > that by separating the owning group and mask permissions.
> >
> > For this aspect of the problem (actually for all aspects except for those
> > that the DENY entries cause because they are sometimes difficult or
> > impossible to uniquely tell from other "ordinary" entries) it is totally
> > irrelevant whether the mask is represented as a mask:: acl entry as in
> > POSIX ACLs, as a series of DENY ACL entries, or as NFSv4 attributes.
> >
> > (POSIX ACLs only need one mask entry because they can never grant more
> > than rwx permissions anyway, and so the owner and other permissions are
> > always identical to the owner and other file mode permission bits. That's
> > no longer true with POSIX ACLs, and so there we also need mask entries
> > for the owner and for others.)
>
> So you need this if and only if you want to be able to set OWNER@
> permissions other than read, write, or execute, *and* want to be able to
> recover from a chmod?

I think I have answered this exhaustively in:

Subject: Re: [NFS] [nfsv4] Re: NFSv4 ACL and POSIX interaction / mask,
         draft-ietf-nfsv4-acls-00 not ready
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:44:30 +0200
Message-Id: <200607110244.31010.agruen@suse.de>

Andreas

-- 
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
Novell / SUSE Labs


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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-03 21:10 NFSv4 ACL and POSIX interaction / mask Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-07 11:55 ` NFSv4 ACL and POSIX interaction / mask, draft-ietf-nfsv4-acls-00 not ready Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-08  3:45   ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-08  6:51     ` [nfsv4] " Lisa Week
2006-07-10 21:09       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-08 14:32     ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-09 16:22     ` [nfsv4] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-10 13:29       ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-10 14:15         ` [nfsv4] " J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-10 15:32           ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-10 18:57             ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-10 22:26               ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-10 22:39                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-10 22:43                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-11  0:44                   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11  0:15             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11  5:42               ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-11  8:05                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11 12:29                   ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-11 13:46                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-15 13:56                       ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-11  0:01           ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11  0:28             ` [nfsv4] " J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-11  0:48               ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2006-07-10 22:50         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11  6:17           ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-11  8:45             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-11 12:44               ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner
2006-07-11  6:50       ` Lisa Week
2006-07-11  8:55         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-27  0:59         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-27  2:57           ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-28  6:32           ` Lisa Week
2006-08-01 10:36             ` [nfsv4] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-14 17:59   ` [NFS] " J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-14 18:22     ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-14 19:02     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-14 19:13       ` J. Bruce Fields
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-08 15:04 Noveck, Dave
2006-07-08 19:27 ` [nfsv4] " Lisa Week
2006-07-10  8:07 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-14 18:29 Noveck, Dave
2006-07-14 18:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-16 13:10 Noveck, Dave
2006-07-18 22:08 ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-21 15:10 Noveck, Dave
2006-07-21 18:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-07-23 15:47   ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-25  0:32     ` [nfsv4] " a.gruenbacher
2006-07-25  4:26       ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-25 20:15         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-07-26  4:59           ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-26 13:00             ` [nfsv4] " J. Bruce Fields
2006-08-03 13:46             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-08-04  0:30         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-08-04  1:37           ` Sam Falkner
2006-08-04 10:35             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-08-04 11:19             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2006-08-04 20:20 ` Sam Falkner
2006-07-21 17:16 Yoder, Alan
2006-07-23 15:45 ` [nfsv4] " Sam Falkner

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