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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:15:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607131415.49075.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060713001222.GJ9040@thunk.org>

On Thursday 13 July 2006 02:12, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 01:31:46AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > glibc still works, just slower. But I think the best strategy
> > is just to emulate the single sysctl glibc is using and printk
> > for the rest.
>
> That sounds reasonable, yes.
>
> > > point is moot.  But at the same time, what is the cost of leaving
> > > sys_sysctl in the kernel for an extra 6-12 months, or even longer,
> > > starting from now?
> >
> > The numerical namespace for sysctl is unsalvagable imho. e.g.
> > distributions regularly break it because there is no central repository
> > of numbers so it's not very usable anyways in practice.
>
> That may be true, but it doesn't answer the question, what's the cost
> of leaving in sys_sysctl in there for now?

For once linux/sysctl.h is one of the biggest source of patch rejects.
The sooner it goes the better.

>
> In any case, if we really do want to get rid of it, the next step
> should be a working deprecation printk 

It was in there for months already.

> and adding something to 
> Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt.

That is what Eric's patch did.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-13 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-10 22:39 [PATCH] sysctl: Document that sys_sysctl will be removed Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-10 22:50 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-07-11  4:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-11  7:07     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 16:25       ` [PATCH] Use uname not sysctl to get the kernel revision Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 16:50         ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 17:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 23:24             ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-12 23:31               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13  0:12                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-13  2:33                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 12:15                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-07-12 23:44               ` Steve Munroe
2006-07-14 18:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:09                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-13  0:19               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 18:44           ` Roland McGrath
2006-07-12 19:33             ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-12 19:53               ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-07-12 20:09                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 21:29                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 21:56                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:01                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 22:02                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 22:26                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-12 22:31                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 23:07                               ` Alan Cox
2006-07-12 23:19                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13 11:15                                   ` Alan Cox
2006-07-14 18:45                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-07-14 19:11                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:29                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-12 21:33                     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-13  5:17                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-13  6:27                       ` Ian Wienand
2006-07-13 14:39                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 15:05                         ` Arjan van de Ven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-13  5:00 Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13  5:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-13  6:09   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13  6:13     ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13  6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 16:15   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 16:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-07-13 17:06       ` Albert Cahalan
2006-07-13 15:20 ` Eric W. Biederman

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