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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	Ed Lin <ed.lin@promise.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	hch <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, akpm <akpm@osdl.org>,
	promise_linux <promise_linux@promise.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Promise 'stex' driver
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:18:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060721031855.GA31187@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C0436E.306@garzik.org>

On Thu, Jul 20 2006, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> >If I thought that it would ever be updated to use block tagging, I would
> >not care at all. The motivation to add it from the Promise end would be
> >zero, as it doesn't really bring any immediate improvements for them. So
> >it would have to be done by someone else, which means me or you. I don't
> >have the hardware to actually test it, so unless you do and would want
> >to do it, chances are looking slim :-)
> >
> >It's a bit of a chicken and egg problem, unfortunately. The block layer
> >tagging _should_ be _the_ way to do it, and as such could be labelled a
> >requirement. I know that's a bit harsh for the Promise folks, but
> >unfortunately someone has to pay the price...
> 
> I think it's highly rude to presume that someone who has so-far been 
> responsive, and responsible, will suddenly not be so.  That is not the 
> way to encourage vendors to join the Linux process.
> 
> They set up an alias for Linux maintainer stuff and have been acting 
> like a maintainer that will stick around.  Why punish them for good 
> behavior?
> 

I'm not trying to be rude to annyone, sorry if that is the impression
you got. I'm just looking at things realistically - the fact is that
moving to block layer tagging is not something that will benefit
Promise, so it'd be fairly low on their agenda of things to do. I don't
mean that in any rude sense, I can completely understand that position.
Why would you want to change something that works?  Hence it's
reasonable to assume that eg you or I would eventually have to convert
it.

No punishment intended.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-21  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-19 15:07 [PATCH] Promise 'stex' driver Ed Lin
2006-07-20 21:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-20 23:55   ` James Bottomley
2006-07-21  0:16     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21  1:07       ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-21  1:25         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21  1:38           ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-21  2:10             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21  2:36               ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-21  3:01                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21  3:18                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-07-21  3:52                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-21 12:13                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-23 19:45                   ` hch
2006-07-23 20:21                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-23 19:44                 ` hch
2006-07-21  1:06   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found] <NONAMEBFJ3sl3xbYiMC000000d4@nonameb.ptu.promise.com>
2006-07-25  9:26 ` hch
2006-07-26  1:20   ` Alan Cox
2006-07-25 17:30 ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-10 16:08 Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 16:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 16:29   ` James Bottomley
2006-06-10 16:34     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 16:50       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 17:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 16:30   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 17:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-06-10 17:37   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 18:22     ` James Bottomley
2006-06-10 18:43       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 22:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-10 17:47 ` Alexey Dobriyan

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