From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, a.zummo@towertech.it,
jg@freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:25:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060725222547.GA3973@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C6842C.8020501@zytor.com>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:50:52PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Neil Horman wrote:
> >
> >Agreed. How about we take the /dev/rtc patch now (since its an added
> >feature
> >that doesn't hurt anything if its not used, as far as tickless kernels
> >go), and
> >I'll start working on doing gettimeofday in vdso for arches other than
> >x86_64.
> >That will give the X guys what they wanted until such time until all the
> >other
> >arches have a gettimeofday alternative that doesn't require kernel traps.
> >
>
> It hurts if it DOES get used.
>
Yes, but if its in trade for something thats being used currently which hurts
more (case in point being the X server), using this solution is a net gain.
I'm not arguing with you that adding a low res gettimeofday vsyscall is a better
long term solution, but doing that requires potentially several implementations
in the C library accross a range of architectures, some of which may not be able
to provide a time solution any better than what the gettimeofday syscall
provides today. The /dev/rtc solution is easy, available right now, and applies
to all arches. It has zero impact for systems which do not use it, and for
those applications which make a decision to use it instead of an alternate
method, the result I expect will be a net gain, until such time as we code up,
test and roll out a vsyscall solution
Thanks & Regards
Neil
> -hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-25 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-25 17:41 [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver Neil Horman
2006-07-25 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 18:01 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 18:22 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 18:43 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:03 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:07 ` John W. Linville
2006-07-25 19:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-25 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 17:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 18:28 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:56 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 19:07 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 19:21 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 19:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 19:47 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:04 ` Dave Airlie
2006-07-25 20:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 20:47 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 22:25 ` Neil Horman [this message]
2006-07-25 22:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 23:10 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26 0:03 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:29 ` David Lang
2006-07-26 0:18 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 23:29 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-25 23:56 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26 0:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26 0:20 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26 0:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-26 14:45 ` A better interface, perhaps: a timed signal flag Theodore Tso
2006-07-28 13:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 14:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-28 15:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 16:41 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 16:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 20:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 20:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-28 20:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-07-28 17:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 20:58 ` [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 21:14 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 21:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-25 21:39 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-29 4:28 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 12:54 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-29 20:41 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 21:43 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-29 22:45 ` Keith Packard
2006-07-29 23:18 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-29 21:49 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-29 22:51 ` itimer again (Re: [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver) Bill Huey
2006-07-29 23:35 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30 1:00 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-30 1:22 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30 1:39 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-30 2:02 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30 14:33 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-30 22:20 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-31 15:40 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-30 0:16 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-07-30 0:24 ` Bill Huey
2006-07-29 14:02 ` [PATCH] RTC: Add mmap method to rtc character driver Thomas Gleixner
2006-07-26 13:17 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-02 3:54 ` john stultz
2006-08-02 4:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-02 4:34 ` john stultz
2006-07-25 23:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-26 0:10 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 20:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-07-25 23:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-07-26 0:06 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-25 18:00 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-25 18:17 ` Neil Horman
2006-07-26 15:16 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-26 17:25 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-27 23:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-07-28 3:29 ` Jim Gettys
2006-07-28 11:59 ` Neil Horman
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