From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751809AbWG0G4G (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:56:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751858AbWG0G4F (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:56:05 -0400 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:17930 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751809AbWG0G4E (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:56:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:56:03 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: andrea@cpushare.com Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" , Hans Reiser , Nikita Danilov , Rene Rebe , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060727065603.GJ23701@stusta.de> References: <20060726124557.GB23701@stusta.de> <20060726132957.GH32243@opteron.random> <20060726134326.GD23701@stusta.de> <20060726142854.GM32243@opteron.random> <20060726145019.GF23701@stusta.de> <20060726160604.GO32243@opteron.random> <20060726170236.GD31172@fieldses.org> <20060726172029.GS32243@opteron.random> <20060726205022.GI23701@stusta.de> <20060726211741.GU32243@opteron.random> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060726211741.GU32243@opteron.random> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 11:17:41PM +0200, andrea@cpushare.com wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:50:22PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > But depending on the nature of the error, the worst case might be the > > common case (as I've already explained in another email). > > > > If you can't ensure the quality of your data, please don't use this data > > to wrongly draw any conclusions from them [1]. > > Please read the footer of the KLive pages: > > "The use of the information and of the software in this website is at > your own risk. KLive probably doesn't represent a reliable sample of > the real usage of the Linux Kernel." It was you who wrongly said: "With KLive I can attempt to estimate market share of _kernel_ code" Hadn't you read your own disclaimer? > Said that pretending that KLive data has absolutely no significance at > all and that you can't draw any conclusion at all from it, to me seems > as wrong as pretending it to perfect. Possibly wrong conclusions about the general market share based on data not having the quality for being the basis of such statements are worse than having no data. Every time someone will repeat the "1:5 ratio for reiser4:ext3 users", this will be an additional proof it's really worse than no data. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed