From: Jens Axboe <qemu@kernel.dk>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:08:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060731070832.GE14748@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607291731.36528.paul@codesourcery.com>
On Sat, Jul 29 2006, Paul Brook wrote:
> > Easy to do with the fsync infrastructure, but probably not worth
> > doing since people are working on the AIO I/O backend, which would
> > allow multiple outstanding writes from a guest. That, in turn,
> > means I/O completion in the guest can be done when the data really
> > hits disk, but without a performance impact.
>
> Not entirely true. That only works if you allow multiple guest IO
> requests in parallel, ie. some form of tagged command queueing. This
> requires either improving the SCSI emulation, or implementing SATA
> emulation. AFAIK parallel IDE doesn't support command queueing.
Parallel IDE does support queuing, but it never gained wide spread
support and the standard is quite broken as well (which is probably
_why_ it never got much adoption). It was also quite suboptimal from a
CPU efficiency POV.
Besides, async completion in itself is not enough, QEMU still needs to
honor ordered writes (barriers) and cache flushes.
> My impression what that the initial AIO implementation is just
> straight serial async operation. IO wouldn't actually go any faster,
> it just means the guest can do something else while it's waiting.
Depends on the app, if the io workload is parallel then you should see a
nice speedup as well (as QEMU is then no longer the serializing bottle
neck).
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-31 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-28 19:54 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-07-28 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:30 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-28 20:43 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 21:01 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2006-07-29 14:59 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:04 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-29 16:22 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:31 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-07-29 17:33 ` Bill C. Riemers
2006-07-30 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-30 21:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-31 9:52 ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31 10:17 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 17:50 ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 7:56 ` Jonas Maebe
2006-07-31 8:18 ` Jens Axboe
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