From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: "Vladimir V. Saveliev" <vs@namesys.com>
Cc: vda.linux@googlemail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Reiserfs-List@namesys.com
Subject: Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:33:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060801073316.ee77036e.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1154431477.10043.55.camel@tribesman.namesys.com>
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:24:37 +0400
"Vladimir V. Saveliev" <vs@namesys.com> wrote:
> > >The writeout code is ugly, although that's largely due to a mismatch between
> > >what reiser4 wants to do and what the VFS/MM expects it to do.
>
> Yes. reiser4 writeouts atoms. Most of pages get into atoms via
> sys_write. But pages dirtied via shared mapping do not. They get into
> atoms in reiser4's writepages address space operation.
It think you mean ->writepage - reiser4 desn't implement ->writepages().
I assume you considered hooking into ->set_page_dirty() to do the
add-to-atom thing earlier on?
We'll merge mm-tracking-shared-dirty-pages.patch into 2.6.19-rc1, which
would make that approach considerably more successful, I expect.
->set_page_dirty() is a bit awkward because it can be called under
spinlock.
Maybe comething could also be gained from the new
vm_operations_struct.page_mkwrite(), although that's less obvious...
> That is why
> reiser4_sync_inodes has two steps: on first one it calls
> generic_sync_sb_inodes to call writepages for dirty inodes to capture
> pages dirtied via shared mapping into atoms. Second step flushes atoms.
>
> > >
> > I agree --- both with it being ugly, and that being part of why.
> >
> > > If it
> > >works, we can live with it, although perhaps the VFS could be made smarter.
> > >
> > >
> > I would be curious regarding any ideas on that. Next time I read
> > through that code, I will keep in mind that you are open to making VFS
> > changes if it improves things, and I will try to get clever somehow and
> > send it by you. Our squalloc code though is I must say the most
> > complicated and ugliest piece of code I ever worked on for which every
> > cumulative ugliness had a substantive performance advantage requiring us
> > to keep it. If you spare yourself from reading that, it is
> > understandable to do so.
> >
> > >I'd say that resier4's major problem is the lack of xattrs, acls and
> > >direct-io. That's likely to significantly limit its vendor uptake.
>
> xattrs is really a problem.
That's not good. The ability to properly support SELinux is likely to be
important.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-01 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-31 9:26 reiser4: maybe just fix bugs? Denis Vlasenko
2006-07-31 12:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-31 16:17 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-07-31 20:06 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-08-01 15:22 ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-01 2:30 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 10:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-01 13:59 ` Scott J. Harmon
2006-08-02 6:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-02 19:53 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-08-01 8:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-01 2:18 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-01 11:24 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-08-01 14:33 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-08-01 15:07 ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2006-08-01 16:55 ` David Masover
2006-08-01 19:26 ` Nate Diller
2006-08-02 3:54 ` David Masover
2006-08-03 7:46 ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-04 21:09 ` David Masover
2006-08-01 19:14 ` Nate Diller
2006-08-01 11:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-01 11:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-01 14:54 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-01 19:32 ` Andi Kleen
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