From: Hugo Santos <hsantos@av.it.pt>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: kazunori@miyazawa.org, hadi@cyberus.ca, shemminger@osdl.org,
herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, usagi-core@linux-ipv6.org
Subject: Re: Regarding offloading IPv6 addrconf and ndisc
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:50:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060801115002.GX8334@innerghost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060731.142307.35014994.davem@davemloft.net>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1843 bytes --]
David,
> So all of you userland control-plane fanatics, how will you handle
> things like NFS root with these daemon-required variants of NDISC and
> ARP?
Do it in the initial ramdisk, we only need the daemon to setup the
NDISC entries to talk to the NFS server. :-)
There is obviously a cost associated with this, a deployment cost.
But there are additional factors we must consider. In a later e-mail
you state that Linux is a generic purpose operating system; how many
users need to boot from a NFS root (besides myself :-)? I think that we
must take into consideration that currently Linux is used in lots of
distinct environments, not only Desktop computers, and servers, but
also smaller devices. Configuration/Flexibility vs. optimization is
something that varies a lot depending on the deployment you are talking
about, and in most of my scenarios, a small mobile device isn't
required at the moment to push 100Mbps (optimization) but must be
capable of verifying it's peers and maintaining secure connections
(flexibility). So, let's be generic?
I might have some cycles during the month to code up something in
this direction, at least for an initial review, i'll try to do so.
Also, the reliability of a system depends on a lot of things, but
please, let's not use the assumption that because everything sits in
the kernel, it will be stable as the number of 'points of failure' is
smaller; this is only true as long as people work to have stable
components -- and this is independent of where the components sit. A
few kernel versions ago (2.6.8 if i remember correctly) i couldn't even
remove a used network interface safely from the system without hanging
the network stack. It is possible to have stable user-space code, if
people developing it work to and make sure it is stable.
Hugo
[-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-01 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-27 11:25 Regarding offloading IPv6 addrconf and ndisc Hugo Santos
2006-07-27 12:25 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-27 17:56 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-27 23:56 ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-28 1:34 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 1:45 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 2:27 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 3:13 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 3:20 ` David Miller
2006-07-28 3:31 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 4:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-07-28 8:34 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-28 12:45 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-07-29 13:34 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-30 3:28 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-30 11:30 ` Hugo Santos
2006-07-31 21:23 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 11:50 ` Hugo Santos [this message]
2006-08-01 21:54 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:16 ` Kazunori Miyazawa
2006-07-28 2:22 ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-28 2:33 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-01 0:46 ` David Miller
2006-08-01 0:49 ` Roland Dreier
2006-08-01 1:24 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 1:30 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01 1:47 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-01 12:13 ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-01 12:00 ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-01 21:57 ` David Miller
2006-08-03 13:28 ` Ingo Oeser
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20060801115002.GX8334@innerghost.net \
--to=hsantos@av.it.pt \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=hadi@cyberus.ca \
--cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
--cc=kazunori@miyazawa.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=shemminger@osdl.org \
--cc=usagi-core@linux-ipv6.org \
--cc=yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.