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From: Hugo Santos <hsantos@av.it.pt>
To: Ville Nuorvala <vnuorval@tcs.hut.fi>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / ???????????? <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Mobile IPv6 introduction
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:03:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060802110338.GO8334@innerghost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D05B39.5080608@tcs.hut.fi>

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Hi Ville,

On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:58:49AM +0300, Ville Nuorvala wrote:
> To name just one issue: the chicken and egg problem of source address
> selection and source address based routing. I solved this problem by
> letting policy rules (with a source prefix) add additional constraints
> to the address selection. This did however mean the source address
> selection had to be moved inside the routing code.

   To tell you the truth i don't know what MIPL does in terms of policy
 management. In my implementation, all routing policies go into
 Subtrees without any kind of extra routing tables. I also had the
 problem you describe, but i opted for what i think is a simpler
 solution:

   - Access router default routes are installed with a source-address,
     the address that was generated from the announced prefix (which to
     be fair degenerates to several entries if a single router announces
     multiple prefixes). This is based on the assumption that access
     routers do perform source-based ingress filtering so you may only
     use a particular access router for global connectivity using a
     particular address.
   - The default home route is installed without a source-address for
     the "default" Home address (i may have several).

   This means Linux's source address selection works without
 modifications: if no address is specified, it will pick the default
 home route and then the Home address (which has a preference as well).
 In this sense, subtrees have worked fine for me.

> But route optimization is just one form of packet transform; it just
> adds a Routing Header type 2 and/or Home Address Option Destination
> Header to the outgoing packet. Isn't xfrm just the right place for this?
> 
> You are right that we (HUT and USAGI) have mostly just looked at the
> xfrm framework from a MIPv6+IPsec perspective, but even this has helped
> us pinpoint several shortcomings in the current only IPsec specific
> framework.

   XFRM is indeed the right place for this; i just would rather not have
 the mode exposed and prefer wrapping any mode-specific stuff into
 optional callbacks. It might not be as performant but would allow
 adding new modes more easily.

   Hugo

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-02 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-29  9:23 [RFC] Mobile IPv6 introduction Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-07-29  9:28 ` [PATCH 0/23][XFRM] MIPv6 CN introduction (part A) (Re: [RFC] Mobile IPv6 introduction) Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-07-29  9:37   ` [PATCH 0/20][IPV6/XFRM] MIPv6 CN (part B) Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-08-02  0:30     ` David Miller
2006-08-02  8:26       ` Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-07-29 14:12 ` [RFC] Mobile IPv6 introduction Hugo Santos
2006-08-02  0:35   ` David Miller
2006-08-02  0:58     ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-02  1:04       ` David Miller
2006-08-02  1:52       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-08-02  7:58       ` Ville Nuorvala
2006-08-02 11:03         ` Hugo Santos [this message]
2006-08-02  3:24   ` Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-08-02 10:47     ` Hugo Santos
2006-08-02 13:03       ` Masahide NAKAMURA
2006-08-02 21:14         ` David Miller

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