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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	James.Bottomley@steeleye.com, pazke@donpac.ru
Subject: Re: A proposal - binary
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:52:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608050052.36535.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D3CCA1.1040503@vmware.com>


> For privileged domains that have hardware privileges and need to send 
> IPIs or something it might make sense. 

Any SMP guest needs IPI support of some sort.

But it is hopefully independent of subarchitectures in the paravirtualized
case.


> doesn't stop Linux from using the provided primitives in any way is 
> sees fit.  So it doesn't top evolution in that sense.  What it does stop 
> is having the Linux hypervisor interface grow antlers and have new 
> hooves grafted onto it.  What it sorely needed in the interface is a way 
> to probe 

That's the direction the interface is evolving I think (see multiple
entry point discussion) 

> and detect optional features that allow it to grow independent 
> of one particular hypervisor vendor.

Ok maybe not with options and subsets so far, but one has to
start somewhere.

-Andi

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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	James.Bottomley@steeleye.com, pazke@donpac.ru
Subject: Re: A proposal - binary
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:52:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608050052.36535.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D3CCA1.1040503@vmware.com>


> For privileged domains that have hardware privileges and need to send 
> IPIs or something it might make sense. 

Any SMP guest needs IPI support of some sort.

But it is hopefully independent of subarchitectures in the paravirtualized
case.


> doesn't stop Linux from using the provided primitives in any way is 
> sees fit.  So it doesn't top evolution in that sense.  What it does stop 
> is having the Linux hypervisor interface grow antlers and have new 
> hooves grafted onto it.  What it sorely needed in the interface is a way 
> to probe 

That's the direction the interface is evolving I think (see multiple
entry point discussion) 

> and detect optional features that allow it to grow independent 
> of one particular hypervisor vendor.

Ok maybe not with options and subsets so far, but one has to
start somewhere.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-04 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-03 10:14 A proposal - binary Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 11:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-03 12:16   ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 15:17     ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 16:05     ` Chris Wright
2006-08-03 17:57     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:29       ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-03 18:47         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 18:08   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:03     ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:14       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 19:36         ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:56           ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 19:59             ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:25             ` Options depending on STANDALONE Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 20:28               ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 20:41                 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-03 23:40               ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Trent Piepho
2006-08-05 10:51                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-06 11:18                   ` Oliver Endriss
2006-08-13 16:36                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-14 21:15                       ` Trent Piepho
2006-08-27 21:45                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-03 19:48     ` A proposal - binary linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-04  6:13       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-03 21:03     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 13:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 20:29   ` Willy Tarreau
2006-08-03 21:12     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 21:27       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-03 18:36   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:45     ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-06 22:45       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-06 22:59         ` Greg KH
2006-08-08  0:12         ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-08  0:42           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-09  7:43             ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-03 19:06 ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 19:26   ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 20:01     ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 21:41       ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:33         ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 22:30           ` Greg KH
2006-08-03 22:49             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 22:31           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-03 23:30             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-03 23:40               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 10:21                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 14:34                   ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-05  0:06                     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-04  8:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04  2:52       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04  2:52         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04  4:18         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  5:04           ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  5:04             ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  5:53             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  7:04               ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  7:04                 ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  7:21                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  8:29                   ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04  8:29                     ` Rusty Russell
2006-08-04 16:57                 ` David Lang
2006-08-04 18:38                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 18:46                   ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04 19:06                     ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:26                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 19:45                         ` David Lang
2006-08-04 20:11                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 20:31                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:26                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-08-04 21:40                                 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2006-08-04 22:00                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-04 22:45                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04 19:45                       ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 19:49                         ` David Lang
2006-08-04 21:46                           ` Jeff Dike
2006-08-04 22:40                             ` David Lang
2006-08-04  5:40           ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  5:40             ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  6:28             ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04  7:01               ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  7:01                 ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  7:19                 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-08-04  7:37                   ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04  7:37                     ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 18:34       ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 18:34         ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 20:41         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 20:41           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 20:52           ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 20:52             ` Chris Wright
2006-08-04 21:26           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 21:26             ` Alan Cox
2006-08-05  1:14             ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05  5:37               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05  5:37                 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05 10:42                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:50                 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-05 11:50                   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 22:01           ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:01             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:39             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 22:39               ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-04 22:52               ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-08-04 22:52                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-04 22:43             ` David Lang
2006-08-05 10:47             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 10:47               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-05 11:57               ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-05 11:57                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-05  1:30           ` James Bottomley
2006-08-05  4:33             ` Zachary Amsden
2006-08-05  4:33               ` Zachary Amsden

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