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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: "Molle Bestefich" <molle.bestefich@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ext3 corruption
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608100944.27396.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62b0912f0608090822n2d0c44c4uc33b5b1db00e9d33@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 09 August 2006 17:22, Molle Bestefich wrote:
> The hardware works flawlessly.
> The shutdown was a regular shutdown -h.
> 
> Messages on the console indicated that Linux actually tried to
> shutdown the filesystem before shutting down Samba, which is just
> plain Real-F......-Stupid.  Is there no intelligent ordering of
> shutdown events in Linux at all?

There is no shutdown ordering in the Linux *kernel*, it is
the responsibility of the userspace to arrange for that.
IOW: the distribution packagers should do it,
or you, if you maintain your custom-configured system.

> Samba was serving files to remote computers and had no desire to let
> go of the filesystem while still running.  After 5 seconds or so,

Somebody forgot to add a kill -9 to the shutdown scripts.

> Linux just shutdown the MD device with the filesystem still mounted.
> 
> That's what happened on a user-visible level, but what could have
> happened internally in the filesystem?
--
vda

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-10  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-13 20:32 ext3 corruption Molle Bestefich
2006-08-08 23:47 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-09  1:33   ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-08-09 10:36   ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-09 11:33   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-09 15:22     ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-09 15:38       ` Michael Loftis
2006-08-09 18:28         ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-09 18:41           ` Mws
2006-08-09 20:17           ` Duane Griffin
2006-08-09 20:47             ` Molle Bestefich
     [not found]               ` <e9e943910608091527t3b88da7eo837f6adc1e1e6f98@mail.gmail.com>
2006-08-09 23:09                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10  0:08                   ` Duane Griffin
2006-08-10 21:00                     ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-12 16:38                       ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-12 17:24                         ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-12 21:47                           ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-13 19:21                             ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-14  3:23                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-14 15:34                               ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-14 17:21                                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10  3:06           ` Jim Crilly
2006-08-10  9:48             ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10 11:41               ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-10 12:21                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10 12:19               ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-10 13:00                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10 14:40                   ` gmu 2k6
2006-09-24  8:56                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-09-25 12:27                   ` Helge Hafting
2006-10-02  2:40                     ` Molle Bestefich
2006-10-02  3:24                       ` Gene Heskett
2006-10-02  6:50                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-10 16:10               ` John Stoffel
2006-08-10 19:10                 ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-11  8:06                   ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-11 13:26                 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-12  8:54                   ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-12 10:31                     ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-17  1:27                     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-17 13:46                       ` Molle Bestefich
2006-08-10  8:32           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-10  7:44       ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0207121337500.8654-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-07-12 19:05 ` Alec Smith
2002-07-12 20:11   ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-12 15:32 Alec Smith
2002-07-12 15:52 ` Russell King
2002-07-12 19:51   ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 16:02 ` Alan Cox

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