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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:33:53 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060811063353.GC11230@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44DC22C1.1060200@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:25:05PM -0700, Ulrich Drepper (drepper@redhat.com) wrote:
> Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > The main disadvantage is that all memory is allocated on the start even
> > if it will not be used later. I think dynamic grow is appropriate
> > solution, since user will have that memory used anyway, since kevents
> > are allocated,
> 
> If you _allocate_ memory at startup you're doing something wrong.  All
> you should do is allocate address space.  Memory should be allocated
> when it is needed.
> 
> Growing a memory region is always hard because it means you cannot keep
> any addresses around and always have to reload a base pointer.  That's
> not ideal.
>
> Especially on 64-bit machines address space really is no limitation
> anymore.  So, allocate as much as needed, allocate memory when it's
> needed, and don't resize.

That requires mmap hacks to substitute pages in run-time without user
notifications. I do not expect it is a good solution, since on x86 it
requires full TLB flush (at least when I did it there were no exported
methods to flush separate addresses).

> -- 
> ➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
> 



-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-11  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-09 13:24 [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-09 14:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-09 15:08   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:17 ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:26   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 19:18   ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 20:06     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 21:32       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28  5:23         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 18:33           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 18:44             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:10               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-29  3:38                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29  4:32                   ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-29 15:48                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 20:54                       ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30  8:08                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 15:44                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 16:18                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 16:36                       ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-07-31 10:33                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:35                         ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-31 10:50                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:57                             ` David Miller
2006-07-31 10:59                               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01  7:53                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-01  7:58                                   ` David Miller
2006-07-31 19:41                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:00                           ` David Miller
2006-07-31 22:16                             ` Brent Cook
2006-07-31 22:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-01  6:24                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:46                         ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  9:34                         ` [take2 0/4] kevent: introduction Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                           ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                             ` [take2 2/4] kevent: network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                               ` [take2 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                                 ` [take2 3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 13:46                             ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files James Morris
2006-08-01 13:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 14:27                                 ` James Morris
2006-08-01 14:34                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 23:56                             ` Zach Brown
2006-08-02  0:01                               ` David Miller
2006-08-02  6:43                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  6:39                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  7:25                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-02  7:46                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:45                         ` [take3 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:40                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                           ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                             ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                               ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                                 ` [take3 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:43                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03  9:48                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:54                                 ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 10:13                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 17:04                               ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Badari Pulavarty
2006-08-03 17:13                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 14:40                             ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 14:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 15:11                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 15:21                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 21:37                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 13:02                         ` [take4 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                           ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                             ` [take4 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                               ` [take4 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                                 ` [take4 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 17:57                             ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Greg KH
2006-08-05 18:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  7:44                         ` [take5 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  7:44                           ` [take5 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  7:44                             ` [take5 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  7:44                               ` [take5 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  7:44                                 ` [take5 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08  9:52                                 ` [take5 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 10:02                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 22:02                             ` [take5 1/4] kevent: Core files Zach Brown
2006-08-09  5:22                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-08 21:32                           ` [take5 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Zach Brown
2006-08-09  5:31                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  5:52                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09  6:11                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  6:25                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  6:31                                     ` David Miller
2006-08-09  6:49                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  6:57                                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-09  7:00                                           ` David Miller
2006-08-09  7:00                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:34                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-09  8:45                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-09  8:02                         ` [take6 0/3] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  7:58                           ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:07                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:24                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                           ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                             ` [take6 3/3] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                               ` [take6 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 17:47                             ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-09 19:17                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  0:04                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09 22:21                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  6:14                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  6:42                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-10  6:48                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  7:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  7:50                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  8:02                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  8:22                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  0:56                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:15                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:23                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:30                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  7:04                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  7:27                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:25                                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-11  6:33                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2006-08-11  6:38                                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-11  6:55                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:12                               ` [take7 0/1] kevent: generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:16                                 ` [take7 1/1] kevent: core files and timer/poll notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:22                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 15:45                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:18                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12  8:38                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:55                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13  0:51                             ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Jeff Carr
2006-08-13  9:04                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                         ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                           ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                             ` [take9 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 13:30                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:40                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:41                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 10:59                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:01                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:26                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 14:35                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-08-16 13:45                             ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:56                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:08                                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 19:24                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 19:45                                   ` David Miller
2006-08-16 20:06                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:46                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 11:23                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:56                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:13                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:53                                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 13:01                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 13:49                                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 19:09                                             ` David Miller
2006-08-16 13:26                           ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:38                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:10                               ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 12:34                         ` [take10 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                           ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                             ` [take10 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:37                             ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Mika Penttilä
2006-08-16 12:44                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18  9:35                             ` Joe Jin
2006-08-18 10:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  1:05           ` [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files David Miller
2006-07-27 20:58     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-27 21:44       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 22:02         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-28  5:39           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:01           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:24             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:34               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:37                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  1:02     ` David Miller
2006-08-01 17:02       ` Zach Brown

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