From: "Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What's in kbuild.git for 2.6.19
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:02:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060814120255.A25857@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6821.1155538929@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com>; from kaos@ocs.com.au on Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 12:02:09AM -0700
Keith, 2.4 kernel build doesn't seem to have this issue. Is this problem
specific to 2.6 kbuild?
"info make" says this.
<snip>
Note that any job that is marked recursive (*note Instead of Executing
the Commands: Instead of Execution.) doesn't count against the total
jobs (otherwise we could get `N' sub-`make's running and have no slots
left over for any real work!)
</snip>
Are we doing something different in 2.6 kbuild?
thanks,
suresh
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 12:02:09AM -0700, Keith Owens wrote:
>Sam Ravnborg (on Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:45:03 +0200) wrote:
>>Outstanding kbuild issues (I should fix a few of these for 2.6.18):
>>o make -j N is not as parallel as expected (latest report from Keith
>> Ownens but others has complained as well). I assume it is a kbuild
>> thing but has no clue how to fix it or debug it further.
>
>It is the make jobserver code. make -j<n> causes the various make
>tasks to communicate and work out how many versions are currently
>running, to avoid overrunning the -j<n> value. Every recursive
>invocation of make subtracts one from the -j value, reducing the value
>that is left when make finally get down to doing some useful work
>instead of just recursing. Jobserver problems are yet another reason
>why recursive make is bad.
>
>kbuild is full of recursive make. The user cannot just add an excess
>to <n>, the number of recursive invocations changes from kernel to
>kernel as people try to fix bugs in makefile generation, so the
>required excess value keeps changing.
>
>Before somebody suggests it: the makefile cannot detect the supplied
>value of <n> and specify a modified -j<n> on recursive make commands.
>make will detect that a sub-make has -j<n>, complain about it and turn
>off the jobserver completely.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-14 19:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-13 19:45 What's in kbuild.git for 2.6.19 Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-13 20:54 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-13 20:57 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-13 21:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-13 22:00 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-14 3:38 ` [PATCH] kbuild: more doc. cleanups Randy.Dunlap
2006-08-14 7:02 ` What's in kbuild.git for 2.6.19 Keith Owens
2006-08-14 19:02 ` Siddha, Suresh B [this message]
2006-08-15 3:53 ` Keith Owens
2006-08-15 6:25 ` Keith Owens
2006-08-15 15:16 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-18 8:26 ` Greg Schafer
2006-08-18 17:13 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-18 22:12 ` Greg Schafer
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