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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] BLOCK: Make it possible to disable the block layer [try #2]
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:34:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060901163403.GC18276@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060901161920.GB32440@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:19:20PM +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Fri, 1 September 2006 17:31:51 +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > 
> > Yes and no. In the latter case, they have to magically know that at
> > least menuconfig and xconfig can be tricked to list depending options.
> 
> True.  Marginally better than horrible then. :)
> 
> > Could be a fun project [...]
> 
> Absolutely.  Assuming that select gets removed in the process, and
> concentrating on oldconfig, would it be enough to have something like
> this in the .config?
> 
> # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE has unmet dependencies: CONFIG_SCSI, CONFIG_BLOCK
> 
> Now people looking for usb mass storage can find the option without
> grepping through Kconfig files, but also every single driver for every
> single disabled subsystem shows up.  Might be a bit too much.

Common use case:
A driver was changed to use FW_LOADER.
The .config for the old kernel contains CONFIG_FW_LOADER=n.
The user runs "make oldconfig" with the old .config in the new kernel.

How do you plan to handle this reasonably without select?

> Jörn

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] BLOCK: Make it possible to disable the block layer [try #2]
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:34:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060901163403.GC18276@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060901161920.GB32440@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:19:20PM +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Fri, 1 September 2006 17:31:51 +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > 
> > Yes and no. In the latter case, they have to magically know that at
> > least menuconfig and xconfig can be tricked to list depending options.
> 
> True.  Marginally better than horrible then. :)
> 
> > Could be a fun project [...]
> 
> Absolutely.  Assuming that select gets removed in the process, and
> concentrating on oldconfig, would it be enough to have something like
> this in the .config?
> 
> # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE has unmet dependencies: CONFIG_SCSI, CONFIG_BLOCK
> 
> Now people looking for usb mass storage can find the option without
> grepping through Kconfig files, but also every single driver for every
> single disabled subsystem shows up.  Might be a bit too much.

Common use case:
A driver was changed to use FW_LOADER.
The .config for the old kernel contains CONFIG_FW_LOADER=n.
The user runs "make oldconfig" with the old .config in the new kernel.

How do you plan to handle this reasonably without select?

> Jörn

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-01 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24 21:32 [PATCH 01/17] BLOCK: Move functions out of buffer code [try #2] David Howells
2006-08-24 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/17] BLOCK: Remove duplicate declaration of exit_io_context() " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/17] BLOCK: Stop fallback_migrate_page() from using page_has_buffers() " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-25 16:11     ` David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 04/17] BLOCK: Separate the bounce buffering code from the highmem code " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 05/17] BLOCK: Don't call block_sync_page() from AFS " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-25 16:12     ` David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 06/17] BLOCK: Move bdev_cache_init() declaration to headerfile " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 07/17] BLOCK: Remove dependence on existence of blockdev_superblock " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 08/17] BLOCK: Dissociate generic_writepages() from mpage stuff " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 09/17] BLOCK: Move __invalidate_device() to block_dev.c " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 10/17] BLOCK: Move the loop device ioctl compat stuff to the loop driver " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <200608250023.13204.arnd@arndb.de>
2006-08-25  9:27     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <200608251217.24543.arnd@arndb.de>
2006-08-25 11:01         ` David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 11/17] BLOCK: Move common FS-specific ioctls to linux/fs.h " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <200608250023.20903.arnd@arndb.de>
2006-08-25  8:38     ` David Howells
2006-08-25  8:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-25  8:44         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 12/17] BLOCK: Move the ReiserFS device ioctl compat stuff to the ReiserFS driver " David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 13/17] BLOCK: Move the Ext2 device ioctl compat stuff to the Ext2 " David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 14/17] BLOCK: Move the Ext3 device ioctl compat stuff to the Ext3 " David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 15/17] BLOCK: Stop CIFS from using EXT2 ioctl numbers directly " David Howells
2006-08-24 21:41   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-25  8:12     ` David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 16/17] BLOCK: Move the msdos device ioctl compat stuff to the msdos driver " David Howells
2006-08-24 21:33 ` [PATCH 17/17] BLOCK: Make it possible to disable the block layer " David Howells
2006-08-25 14:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-25 14:52     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-08-25 16:23     ` David Howells
2006-08-25 18:46       ` David Howells
2006-08-29 11:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-29 12:21         ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-29 12:23         ` David Howells
2006-08-29 12:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-29 13:50             ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-29 14:13               ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-30  1:12                 ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-30 18:33                   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-30 21:43                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30 22:41                       ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-30 23:38                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30 23:58                           ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-31  8:01                             ` Stefan Richter
2006-09-01  0:15                         ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-01  0:48                           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-01  1:27                             ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-01  1:47                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-01 13:44                               ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-01 13:44                                 ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-01 15:31                                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-09-01 15:31                                   ` Stefan Richter
2006-09-01 16:19                                   ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-01 16:19                                     ` Jörn Engel
2006-09-01 16:34                                     ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-09-01 16:34                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-01 17:51                                       ` Stefan Richter
2006-09-01 17:51                                         ` Stefan Richter
2006-09-01 18:14                                         ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-30 22:50                       ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-30 23:12                         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30  1:11               ` Roman Zippel
2006-08-30 11:29                 ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-29 19:58             ` Greg KH
2006-08-29 21:08               ` John Stoffel
2006-08-31  3:01                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-08-31  3:04                   ` Shaya Potter
2006-08-31  8:53                     ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-31 12:32                       ` Shaya Potter
2006-08-31 13:16                         ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-31 13:27                           ` Shaya Potter
2006-08-31 10:13                 ` David Howells
2006-08-25 14:08 ` [PATCH 01/17] BLOCK: Move functions out of buffer code " Christoph Hellwig
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     [not found]   ` <6Nv5K-8dh-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <6Nvfu-8t8-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <6NMJp-4wS-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <6PaTj-7vF-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <6PaTj-7vF-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <6Pciq-362-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <6PmUm-1Y7-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <6PwAr-6jv-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-08-30 13:23                   ` [PATCH 17/17] BLOCK: Make it possible to disable the block layer " Bodo Eggert
2006-08-30 13:23                     ` Bodo Eggert

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