From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 03:02:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060907010235.GE25473@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609070245100.6761@scrub.home>
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:47:42AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> > > BS, even without it gcc can't make such assumption.
> > > There is not a single optimization, which would be invalid in a kernel
> > > environment and would be "fixed" by this option, so please stop this
> > > nonsense.
> >
> > You are wrong.
> >
> > Section 5.1.2.2.2 of ISO/IEC 9899:1999 says:
> > In a hosted environment, a program may use all functions, macros, type
> > definitions, and objects described in the library clause (clause 7).
> >
> > Since a hosted environment means gcc+libc, it's therefore clear that gcc
> > can assume the presence of a full libc if gcc isn't told that it's used
> > as a freestanding environment.
>
> Define "full libc".
Everything described in clause 7 of ISO/IEC 9899:1999.
> Explain what exactly -ffreestanding fixes, which is not valid for the
> kernel.
It's simply correct since the kernel doesn't provide everything
described in clause 7 of ISO/IEC 9899:1999.
And it fixes compile errors caused by the fact that gcc is otherwise
allowed to replace calls to any standard C function with semantically
equivalent calls to other standard C functions - in a hosted environment
the latter are guaranteed to be present.
> byem Roman
cu
Adrian
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"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-07 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-30 17:57 [2.6 patch] re-add -ffreestanding Adrian Bunk
2006-08-30 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-30 18:39 ` Russell King
2006-09-06 22:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-06 23:38 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-06 23:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 0:05 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 0:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 0:47 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 1:02 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-09-07 1:23 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 2:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 10:25 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 6:30 ` Russell King
2006-09-07 10:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-07 11:40 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-07 11:43 ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-07 14:25 ` Russell King
2006-09-07 14:29 ` Roman Zippel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-21 21:21 Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 21:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 21:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:09 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 22:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 22:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 3:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-22 10:37 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-22 11:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-21 23:33 ` Roman Zippel
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