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From: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	"linux@horizon.com" <linux@horizon.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Change set based shallow clone
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:03:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060911000306.GA28927@spearce.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17668.2019.732961.855446@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
[snip]
> The bottom line is that I can speed up the startup for the hot-cache
> case quite a lot.  The cold-cache case is going to take about 20-30
> seconds whatever I do unless Linus or Junio can come up with a way to
> pack the heads and tags.  I could read the refs asynchronously but
> there will still be a long delay in git rev-parse if you give
> arguments such as --all.

I've been thinking about implementing ref storage within a Git tree
object.  Just store the commit/tag/object IDs in a tree (or graph
of trees) with a mode of '0'.  Anchor that under '.git/refs-tree'.
Any edit of a ref would "lock" .git/refs-tree, create a new tree
containing the update, then replace .git/refs-tree.

But it would put additional stress on the objects directory by
creating a lot of trees which would never get pulled into pack
files and thus would need to be pruned away on a regular basis.

It also would make parallel updates more difficult on the server
side as everyone would need to wait for the lock to .git/refs-tree
before they can change any ref; today users only need to wait for
the ref they are trying to change.

It also doesn't help looking up a ref quickly; although trees are
sorted they are variable length entries which forces the application
to read the entire tree to find its entry.


Given those three downsides I haven't put anything to code yet.

-- 
Shawn.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-11  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-07 19:52 Change set based shallow clone Jon Smirl
2006-09-07 20:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 20:41   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-07 21:33     ` Jeff King
2006-09-07 21:51       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 21:37     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 22:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-07 23:09       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 23:20         ` Anand Kumria
2006-09-08  8:48     ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-07 22:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-07 22:40   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  3:54   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-09-08  5:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08  7:15       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-09-08  8:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08 17:18         ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-08 14:20       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 15:50         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-09  3:13           ` Petr Baudis
2006-09-09  8:39             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  5:05   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2006-09-08  1:01 ` linux
2006-09-08  2:23   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08  8:36     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  8:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08 18:42     ` linux
2006-09-08 21:13       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 22:27         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08 23:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-08 23:28           ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 23:45             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  1:45               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 12:41             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-10 14:56               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 16:10                 ` linux
2006-09-10 18:00                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 19:03                     ` linux
2006-09-10 20:00                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 21:00                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-11  2:49                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 22:41                         ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11  2:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11  3:18                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11  6:35                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 18:54                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  8:36                             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 14:26                               ` linux
2006-09-11 15:01                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-11 16:47                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 21:52                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 23:47                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-12  0:06                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-12  0:18                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-12  0:25                                           ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-11  9:04                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-10 18:51                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  0:04                   ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  0:42                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  0:03               ` Shawn Pearce [this message]
2006-09-11  0:41                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  1:04                   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-11  2:44                     ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  5:27                       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  6:08                         ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  7:11                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 17:52                             ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  2:11                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-09  1:05           ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  2:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09  3:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-09  3:31               ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  4:04                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09  8:47                   ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 17:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 18:04                       ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 18:44                         ` linux
2006-09-09 19:17                           ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 20:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 20:43                           ` Jeff King
2006-09-09 21:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-09 21:14                               ` Jeff King
2006-09-09 21:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 22:54                               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10  0:18                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10  1:22                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  3:49                           ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:13                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  4:23                               ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:46                                 ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:54                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  5:14                                   ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  5:46                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10 15:21                                     ` linux
2006-09-10 18:32                                       ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-11  9:56                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 12:39                                         ` linux
2006-09-10  9:49                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-10 10:28                                   ` Josef Weidendorfer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-09 10:31 linux
2006-09-09 13:00 ` Marco Costalba

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