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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
	Marc Perkel <marc@perkel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Raid 0 Swap?
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:50:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609181150.23091.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609041242350.17115@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

On Monday 04 September 2006 12:46, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >> I thought kernel data weren't swapped at all?
> 
> If the swap code was swapped, who would swap it in again?
> 
> >Well, it's not that simple.  Kernel uses both swappable and
> >non-swappable memory internally.  For some things, it's
> >unswappable, for some, it's swappable.  In general, it's
> >impossible to say which parts of kernel will break (and
> >in wich ways) if swap goes havoc.
> 
> In general, everything you type in as C code (.bss, .data, .text) should be 
> unswappable. kmalloc()ed areas are resident too, and kmalloc has a 
> parameter which defines whether the allocation can/cannot push userspace 
> pages into the swap (GFP_ATOMIC/GFP_IO). So if there is some 
> kernel-allocation swapped out, it is most likely to be marked as 
> 'userspace' so that the same algorithms can be used for swapin and -out.

What are you guys talking about? IIRC kernel doesn't use
swap for its vital data structures. I recall only one
kernel thing which goes into swap: tmpfs data. Caching network
filesystems may also use swappable data, but currently grep
catches only cifs.

IOW swap is for dirtied userspace data. Please correct me
if I am wrong here.
--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-03 22:43 Raid 0 Swap? Marc Perkel
2006-09-04  0:16 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-04  7:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-09-04  9:47   ` Helge Hafting
2006-09-04 10:29     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-09-04 10:46       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-18  9:50         ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
     [not found]           ` <e1a7ee0c0612272106y5e22dd21uc3f2fde567ab7532@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-28  9:13             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-01  2:08               ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-04 15:29   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-09-04 20:06     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-09-05 13:37       ` Helge Hafting
2006-09-05 23:44   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-06  6:53     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-09-06 17:21     ` Kyle Moffett
     [not found] <6R8WW-70v-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <6RgKP-1OA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-09-04 13:21   ` Bodo Eggert

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