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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>,
	CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	devel@openvz.org, pj@sgi.com,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:44:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060920164404.GA22913@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609200916140.30572@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 09:25:03AM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Rohit Seth wrote:
> 
> > For example, a user can run a batch job like backup inside containers.
> > This job if run unconstrained could step over most of the memory present
> > in system thus impacting other workloads running on the system at that
> > time.  But when the same job is run inside containers then the backup
> > job is run within container limits.
> 
> I just saw this for the first time since linux-mm was not cced. We have 
> discussed a similar mechanism on linux-mm.
> 
> We already have such a functionality in the kernel its called a cpuset. A 
> container could be created simply by creating a fake node that then 
> allows constraining applications to this node. We already track the 
> types of pages per node. The statistics you want are already existing. 
> See /proc/zoneinfo and /sys/devices/system/node/node*/*.
> 
> > We use the term container to indicate a structure against which we track
> > and charge utilization of system resources like memory, tasks etc for a
> > workload. Containers will allow system admins to customize the
> > underlying platform for different applications based on their
> > performance and HW resource utilization needs.  Containers contain
> > enough infrastructure to allow optimal resource utilization without
> > bogging down rest of the kernel.  A system admin should be able to
> > create, manage and free containers easily.
> 
> Right thats what cpusets do and it has been working fine for years. Maybe 
> Paul can help you if you find anything missing in the existing means to 
> control resources.

What I like about Rohit's patches is the page tracking stuff which 
seems quite simple but capable.

I suspect cpusets don't quite provide enough features for non-exclusive 
use of memory (eg. page tracking for directed reclaim).

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-20 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20  2:16 [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction Rohit Seth
2006-09-20  5:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 16:26   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:26     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:56     ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 16:56       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:08       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:08         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:19         ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:19           ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:30           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:30             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:03             ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 18:03               ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:40       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:40         ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 16:27   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 16:27     ` Rohit Seth
     [not found]   ` <1158751720.8970.67.camel@twins>
     [not found]     ` <4511626B.9000106@yahoo.com.au>
     [not found]       ` <1158767787.3278.103.camel@taijtu>
2006-09-20 17:00         ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:00           ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:23           ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:23             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:36           ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:36             ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:30             ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:30               ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:50           ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:50             ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:52               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:06                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:14                 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:14                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:27                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:33                     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:33                       ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:38                     ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:38                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:48                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:48                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 19:48                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 19:51                   ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:51                     ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:57               ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:57                 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 13:06 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-20 16:45   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 16:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:44   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-09-20 16:48     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:07       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:12         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 22:27           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:59             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:26   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:37     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:38     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:42       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:07       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:51         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:06         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:58         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:02           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:33             ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:36               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:39                 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:51                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:05                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:09                       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:26           ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:31             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:51               ` [Lhms-devel] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21  1:33                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21  1:36                   ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 22:51     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:22       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:45         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:34   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:48       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:35         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:29         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:18       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:30     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:37       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:53         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:07           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:10             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:17               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 18:34   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 18:43     ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:54       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:25         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:35           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:57             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:30               ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:33                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:50                   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:34                 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 20:49           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:51             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 21:04               ` Paul Jackson
     [not found]                 ` <6599ad830609201605s2fc1ccbdse31e3e60a50d56bc@mail.google.com>
2006-09-20 23:54                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:57                     ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:09                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  1:25                   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:45             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:51               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:55         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:27         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 17:02           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-09-21 19:29             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:11       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:17         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:52     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:31       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:36         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:42           ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  1:45             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  1:52               ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 20:06                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 20:10                   ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 21:44                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 22:09                       ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22  0:06                         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  0:13                           ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22  0:55                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  0:24                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-22  0:57                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  1:11                               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 21:59                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 22:07                       ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 22:48                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:09   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-27 19:50 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-27 21:28   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 22:24     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28  8:01       ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-28 18:31         ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 21:53           ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-29  0:22             ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 18:12       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 20:23         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 21:38           ` Rohit Seth

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