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From: Bill Huey (hui) <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
	"Bill Huey (hui)" <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] move put_task_struct() reaping into a thread [Re: 2.6.18-rt1]
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:32:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060921073222.GC10337@gnuppy.monkey.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060921071624.GA25281@elte.hu>

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:16:24AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org> wrote:
> > It's correct from the standpoint of it being reaped in another thread, 
> > so it fixed those crashes. But I pushed it down into another thread at 
> > the request of Esben and his private discussion with Paul McKenney, 
> > since a summary from Esben felt that call_rcu() was somehow less than 
> > ideal to do that.
> 
> but it _is_ already being reaped in another thread: softirq-rcu. 
> Splitting that up any further will only fragment the context-switching 
> and increases cache footprint - it wont (or rather, shouldnt) have any 
> functional effect. (As a sidenote, i'm considering the unification of 
> all 'same default priority' softirq threads into a single thread per 
> CPU, to further reduce this cost of 'spreadout'.)

I overloaded another reaping thread that was doing largely similar
functionality in that it was also reaping, so I don't think it's that bad.
I did it from a cleanliness point of view with the code tree. It's the
"desched_thread" in fork.c that I'm using. It seems to be the right
thing to do. I'm sure Esben will follow up on this.

> > > that you saw crashes under 2.6.17 - but did you manage to figure out 
> > > what the reason is for those crashes, and do those reasons really 
> > > necessiate the pushing of task-reapdown into yet another set of 
> > > kernel threads?
> > 
> > Unfortunately no. I even used Robert's .config on my machine. I added 
> > a disk controller and networking device driver just to boot into his 
> > configuration and I still couldn't replicated any of his kjournald 
> > problems at all. If I had his hardware I'd have a better way of 
> > replicating those problems and pound it out.
> 
> ok, then i guess what we have left is to wait and see whether it still 
> triggers with the current 2.6.18-rt codebase - maybe it triggers for 
> someone in a scenario that is easier to debug.

bill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-21  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20 14:19 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 16:50 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 16:58   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 17:33     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 18:34     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 17:00   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-20 17:38     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Paul E. McKenney
2006-09-20 17:41       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-20 18:23         ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 18:25         ` 2.6.18-rt1 Paul E. McKenney
2006-09-20 18:34           ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-20 20:06             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Paul E. McKenney
2006-09-20 21:38               ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 20:17             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 18:36           ` 2.6.18-rt1 Gene Heskett
2006-09-20 18:47             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-20 19:20               ` 2.6.18-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-20 19:46             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 20:19               ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-20 20:14                 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 20:31                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-21 19:02                     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21 19:18                       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-22 14:42                       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Daniel Walker
2006-09-27  8:36                         ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  8:04               ` 2.6.18-rt1 Deepak Saxena
2006-09-21  8:04                 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  8:24                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Deepak Saxena
2006-09-22  2:19               ` 2.6.18-rt1 john cooper
2006-09-22  6:36                 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lennert Buytenhek
2006-09-22 11:56                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27 13:10                     ` 2.6.18-rt4 john cooper
2006-09-27 13:09                       ` 2.6.18-rt4 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 18:56 ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-20 19:49   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 20:33     ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-20 20:41       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-20 20:50         ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-21 19:16           ` 2.6.18-rt1 john stultz
2006-09-22  2:18             ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-22 11:58             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-28  0:42               ` 2.6.18-rt1 john stultz
2006-09-28 22:48                 ` 2.6.18-rt1 john stultz
2006-09-29  2:09                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-29 12:24                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-29 12:40                   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-20 19:58   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
2006-09-20 20:34     ` 2.6.18-rt1 K.R. Foley
2006-09-20 19:38 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Mark Knecht
2006-09-20 20:27   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Mark Knecht
2006-09-22 14:14   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-09-20 20:54 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-20 22:07 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-20 22:26 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-21  6:56 ` [PATCH] move put_task_struct() reaping into a thread [Re: 2.6.18-rt1] Bill Huey
2006-09-21  6:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:18     ` Bill Huey
2006-09-21  7:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:32         ` Bill Huey [this message]
2006-09-21  7:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:48             ` Bill Huey
2006-09-21  7:56               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  8:13                 ` Bill Huey
2006-09-21 12:23                   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-09-21 12:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:27       ` Bill Huey
2006-09-21  7:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:35           ` Bill Huey
2006-09-21  7:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21  7:52               ` Bill Huey
2006-09-27  2:55   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-27  5:08     ` Bill Huey
2006-09-27  6:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-27  6:34         ` Bill Huey
2006-09-27  7:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-27  9:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27 13:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-27 14:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27 16:18                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-09-27  9:08             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27  9:09             ` Bill Huey
2006-09-27  9:05               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27 20:28         ` Esben Nielsen
2006-09-27  8:57       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-27  9:14         ` Bill Huey
2006-09-27  9:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-25  9:53 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Florian Schmidt
2006-09-26  7:57   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Florian Schmidt
2006-09-25 16:12 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Mike Kravetz
2006-09-27  8:34   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-09-30 18:06 ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-09-30 18:18   ` 2.6.18-rt1 Dipankar Sarma
2006-09-30 18:25     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-10-13 21:18     ` 2.6.18-rt1 Karsten Wiese
2006-10-13 21:20       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-10-13 21:24       ` 2.6.18-rt1 Dipankar Sarma
2006-10-13 22:12         ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-10-13 22:16           ` 2.6.18-rt1 Dipankar Sarma
2006-10-17 14:46             ` 2.6.18-rt1 Lee Revell
2006-10-18  8:34               ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2006-10-18  7:12         ` 2.6.18-rt1 Ingo Molnar

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