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From: Klaus Weidner <klaus@atsec.com>
To: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
Cc: "Mikel L. Matthews" <mikel@argus-systems.com>,
	"Christopher J. PeBenito" <cpebenito@tresys.com>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	SE Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Latest diffs
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:47:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060921154748.GB15101@w-m-p.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1158850172.11048.2.camel@twoface.columbia.tresys.com>

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:49:32AM -0400, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> I don't think this change should be made to the refpolicy policy without
> a good justification, saying "MLS people want it" isn't good, its
> possible that they are also misusing categories.

A fairly typical usage scenario in government use seems to be to have one
category per country plus several for treaty groups or other groups of
countries (NATO, AXIS_OF_EVIL, or whatever). This alone can exceed the
current 256 categories. Since categories generally aren't reusable (old
data should keep its original category set), you want to have a
significant margin for expansion.

The main reason why this would be painful to do as a local site
modifications is that many users who want a MLS system also want to be
running a Common Criteria LSPP evaluated system, and the evaluated
configuration restrictions generally require running the shipped policy
and not a modified one. Since the change requires completely rebuilding
the policy (as opposed to just adding a module) such a change is unlikely
to be acceptable to them.

-Klaus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-21 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20 16:12 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-21 13:45 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-21 14:06   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-21 14:34     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-21 16:33       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-21 18:05         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-21 14:08   ` Mikel L. Matthews
2006-09-21 14:49     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-21 15:10       ` Mikel L. Matthews
2006-09-21 15:18       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-21 15:40       ` Joe Nall
2006-09-21 15:47       ` Klaus Weidner [this message]
2006-09-21 16:08       ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-22 17:13 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-22 20:30   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-25 18:51     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-25 19:10       ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-26 10:41       ` Russell Coker
2006-09-26 13:13         ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-26 13:21           ` Russell Coker
2006-09-26 14:01             ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-09-23  2:22   ` Russell Coker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-03 16:54 Daniel J Walsh
2007-01-03 21:37 ` Klaus Weidner
2007-01-03 21:48 ` Klaus Weidner
2007-01-08 17:48   ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2007-01-09  4:47     ` Klaus Weidner
2007-01-03 22:05 ` Russell Coker
2007-01-04 13:33   ` Steve G
2007-01-04 15:47     ` Klaus Weidner
2007-01-04 16:23     ` Russell Coker
2007-01-04 16:47   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-04 17:07     ` Russell Coker
2007-01-04 17:24       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-01-04 18:27       ` Erich Schubert
2006-10-24 15:00 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-10-31 21:00 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-11-14 20:11   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-15  9:49     ` Russell Coker
2006-11-15 13:39       ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-15 17:33         ` Russell Coker
2006-11-16 13:49           ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-11-17 13:07             ` Russell Coker
2006-11-17 18:33               ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-17 21:27                 ` Russell Coker
2006-09-29 19:05 latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-05 21:06 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-09-06 16:33 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-08-02 17:33 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-06-20 20:19 Daniel J Walsh
2006-06-21 18:31 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-06-12 19:32 Daniel J Walsh
2006-06-12 21:39 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-06-12 21:47   ` Christopher J. PeBenito
     [not found] <44863F06.90206@comcast.net>
2006-06-07 17:46 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-05-18 15:56 Daniel J Walsh
2006-05-19 14:04 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-05-19 14:13   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-05-19 17:40     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-05-19 18:25       ` Daniel J Walsh
     [not found] <445767D1.3040406@redhat.com>
2006-05-02 15:19 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
     [not found]   ` <44579740.4010708@redhat.com>
2006-05-02 17:57     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-04-20 18:57 Chad Hanson
2006-04-20 18:06 Daniel J Walsh
2006-04-20 18:17 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-04-19  3:16 Daniel J Walsh
2006-04-19 15:34 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-02-20 22:19 Daniel J Walsh
2006-02-23 14:18 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-02-09 18:39 Daniel J Walsh
2006-02-13 22:08 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-02-14 14:01   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-02-14 19:03     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-02-16 19:30     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-02-01 13:33 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-02-06 22:50 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-01-19 19:16 Daniel J Walsh
2006-01-19 23:18 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-01-20 13:56   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-01-20 14:53     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-01-17 22:50 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2006-01-18 14:26 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-01-10 14:15 Daniel J Walsh
2006-01-11 15:55 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2005-12-13 22:07 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-12-14 15:35 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2005-12-13 15:48 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-12-13 20:43 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2005-12-13 21:56   ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-09-16 17:43 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-10-20 20:23 ` James Carter
2005-08-15 14:29 Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-19 21:12 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-19 22:16 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-07-20 15:02   ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-20 18:41     ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-07-20 19:37       ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-20 20:56         ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-07-20  0:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2005-07-20  2:03   ` Frank Mayer
2005-07-20  2:29     ` Casey Schaufler
2005-07-20  2:49       ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-20  3:33         ` Casey Schaufler
2005-07-12 20:24 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-07-08  1:11 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-05-28  5:15 latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-04-27 21:17 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2005-04-14 20:49 Daniel J Walsh
2005-04-20 13:17 ` Russell Coker
2005-04-21  1:41   ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-04-21 12:32   ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-02-10 23:24 Daniel J Walsh
     [not found] <1106940328.32737.120.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
2005-01-28 19:48 ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-02-01 18:45   ` James Carter
2005-02-01 19:48     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-01 21:41       ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-02-02 12:57         ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-02 13:08       ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-02 13:17         ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-02 13:32           ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-02-04  0:58             ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-02-04 12:23               ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-04 12:42                 ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-02-04 12:50                   ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-04 13:59               ` Daniel J Walsh
2005-02-04 14:10                 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-04 15:28                   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-02-07  7:53                     ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-02-07 19:33                   ` Richard Hally
2005-02-07 19:34                     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-10 15:16             ` James Carter
2004-10-25 21:40 latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2004-10-27 14:35 ` James Carter
2004-10-20 15:24 Latest diffs Daniel J Walsh
2004-10-20 19:18 ` Colin Walters
2004-10-23  4:24   ` Russell Coker
2004-08-25 15:21 Latest Diffs Daniel J Walsh
2004-08-27 13:52 ` James Carter
2004-08-28 12:55   ` Russell Coker
2004-08-30 20:23     ` James Carter
2004-08-28 12:46 ` Russell Coker
2004-08-30 13:54   ` Daniel J Walsh
2004-08-30 15:50     ` Stephen Smalley

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