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From: Massimiliano Hofer <max@nucleus.it>
To: netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: patch for iptables
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:56:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609251756.32814.max@nucleus.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44EB1A5E.9050304@netfilter.org>

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 4:53 pm, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:

> The official policy is "do not break backward" :). IHMO, if we want to
> go further with iptables we need to think about providing a netlink API.
>
> For out-of-tree stuff the thing can be different, I have seen breakages
> if it really required it. For example, the string match is not
> compatible with the old and broken match for 2.4.

I'd like to make it backward compatible, but, so far, I've seen only these 
possibilities:
a) put a legacy include in the kernel part (ugly);
b) put a kernel version #ifdef in the userspace part (invasive of the build 
system, since, as far as I can tell, no such #defines are present);
c) drop support (it's... well... unsupportive :)).

Of course you could add "d) you're boneheaded and there's a great solution, 
it's just that you can't find it". :)

To be frank, I'm not a great fan of userspace build systems that meddle too 
much in the kernel, especially if it's just a few structures and you're 
committed to keep backward compatibility anyway. It would be more convinient 
if, for example, I could build iptables with lots of extension I don't have 
in my kernel. It would be even more convenient if I tried to package an RPM 
and I didn't want to depend on specific kernel patches being installed.

Anyway, I'd tend to discard a) and would like not to choose c).
Would you accept a patch that introduces kernel version #defines?
Do you have better solutions?

-- 
Saluti,
   Massimiliano Hofer
        Nucleus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-25 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-22 14:34 patch for iptables Massimiliano Hofer
2006-08-22 14:43 ` Massimiliano Hofer
2006-08-22 14:53 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2006-08-22 14:57   ` Massimiliano Hofer
2006-09-25 15:56   ` Massimiliano Hofer [this message]
2006-09-25 23:25     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2006-09-26 11:23       ` Massimiliano Hofer
     [not found] <19c1b8a90804291101x4544818agde26a61a02036c32@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-03 23:27 ` Patch " Yasuyuki KOZAKAI
2008-06-04 13:17   ` Patrick McHardy

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