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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@insightbb.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] error to be returned while suspended
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:16:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610081016.46677.dtor@insightbb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610081039.59777.oliver@neukum.org>

On Sunday 08 October 2006 04:39, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 8. Oktober 2006 09:20 schrieb David Brownell:
> > > If a device is always opened, as mice are, it will not be suspended.
> > > Yet they can be without any data to deliver forever.
> > 
> > In 2.6.19-rc1 read Documentation/power/devices.txt about runtime
> > suspend states.  Then think about how why mouse in a runtime suspend
> > state, with remote wakeup enabled, looks externally ** EXACTLY ** like
> > a mouse that's fully active ....
> 
> I've done so. And I've read the HID spec. It just says that a mouse
> may support remote wakeup, not what should wake it up. A device
> that wakes only if a button is clicked is within spec.
> 

And that's what some devices do. Apologies for a non-USB example, but
since we are talking about input devices and it would be nice to have
the rules consistent across all hardware interfaces I think it's OK...
Synaptics PS/2 touchpad can be put into a sleep mode where it only
reacts on button presses. While this behavior is reasonable for system-
wide suspend it would hardly work for autosuspend.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-08 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-03 11:23 error to be returned while suspended Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 12:51 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-03 13:02   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-03 14:17     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-10-04 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 16:34   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-04 22:44     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05  7:07       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05  8:57         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-05 16:21         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2006-10-05 16:35           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 18:24             ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 18:43               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2006-10-05 21:25                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-05 21:45                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06  7:21                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 17:48                         ` Alan Stern
2006-10-06 11:25                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06  2:47                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-06  7:04                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 11:27                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 14:09                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-06 21:10                         ` David Brownell
2006-10-07 10:49                           ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-07 11:08                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-07 17:16                               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  0:03                                 ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  2:03                                   ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08  7:07                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:27                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:36                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:57                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 21:06                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-08  6:40                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-09 15:56                                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-08  6:51                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08  7:14                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 13:24                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:32                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-10-08 19:41                                     ` /sys/.../power/state " Pavel Machek
2006-10-08 19:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <200610080838.03488.oliver@neukum.org>
     [not found]                     ` <200610080020.49158.david-b@pacbell.net>
2006-10-08  8:39                       ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-08 14:16                         ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2006-10-06 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-06 11:21             ` Pavel Machek

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