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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, balrogg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Config file support
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:34:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610240134.40102.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb249edb0610231711o75dffeaexb52ebdc71f9d2499@mail.gmail.com>

> > The things are what I was asking about.  Assuming that QEMU has support
> > for the appropriate processor type, support for the right bus
> > controller(s), and support for various devices that can attach to that
> > bus, what other information is needed to completely specify a machine? 
> > (You mention IRQ lines and DMA channels...)
>
> I'm pessimistic about machine config file support. I know little about
> the PC-like machines in qemu but I've been playing with embedded
> (system-on-chip) hw emulation and every new piece of hardware required
> changes (even if very small) in the bus or cpu code as well, the
> reason being that manufacturers are allowed to do any kind of tricks
> in their hardware knowing that it doesn't need to be configurable,
> being sold together as a single board. For example chips with totally
> contrasting functions (take keypad input and LCD) are allowed to
> communicate between themselves for good synchronisation, without
> poking the main processor. A different example is a single device
> occupying multiple "slots" on a given bus, or multiple busses.

I'm more optimistic. Even SoC designs tend to be built up from modular 
components. While adding support for a totally new system may require 
changes, I think there's a good chance of being able to describe different 
variants of the similar devices (eg. all the different PrimeCell based 
integrator/versatile/Realview boards, or different members of the OMAP 
family).

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-24  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-20 17:55 [Qemu-devel] Config file support Chuck Brazie
2006-10-21  0:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-21 10:00   ` Ricardo Almeida
2006-10-21 11:40     ` Stefan Weil
2006-10-22  9:51     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-22 17:01       ` Flavio Visentin
2006-10-22 17:19         ` Martin Guy
2006-10-22 18:27           ` Paul Brook
2006-10-23  6:33             ` [Qemu-devel] " Antti P Miettinen
2006-10-23 20:01             ` [Qemu-devel] " Rob Landley
2006-10-23 20:29               ` Paul Brook
2006-10-23 22:22                 ` Rob Landley
2006-10-23 23:33                   ` Paul Brook
2006-10-24  9:04                     ` Rob Landley
2006-10-24 10:47                     ` Flavio Visentin
2006-10-24 12:05                       ` Christian MICHON
2006-10-24 16:46                         ` Blue Swirl
2006-10-24 20:38                           ` Christian MICHON
2006-10-24 23:32                       ` Rob Landley
2006-10-25  8:20                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-24  0:11                   ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-10-24  0:34                     ` Paul Brook [this message]
2006-10-24  0:12                 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-24  0:36                   ` Paul Brook
2006-10-24  1:38                     ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-24  2:31                       ` Paul Brook
2006-10-24  8:37                         ` Christian MICHON
2006-10-24 23:28                       ` Rob Landley
2006-10-25  0:18                         ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-25 15:01                           ` Paul Brook
2006-10-26 14:31                             ` Rob Landley
2006-10-27 20:00                               ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-27 19:33                             ` Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-28  0:08                               ` Paul Brook
2006-10-28  1:46                                 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]                           ` <20061025153503.GB5673@aon.at>
2006-10-28 22:24                             ` busybox "ps ax" woes, was: " Paul Sokolovsky
2006-10-24 23:28                   ` Rob Landley
2006-10-21 18:00   ` David Baird
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-23 18:25 [Qemu-devel] config " Ben Taylor
2006-10-18 18:42 Chuck Brazie
2006-10-22 21:51 ` Rob Landley
2006-10-23 10:58   ` Christian MICHON
2006-10-23 11:48     ` Jan Marten Simons
2006-10-23 12:24       ` Paul Brook
2006-10-23 17:50   ` K. Richard Pixley
2006-10-23 20:39     ` Rob Landley
2006-10-23 20:58       ` Paul Brook
2006-10-23 21:01       ` K. Richard Pixley
2006-10-23 21:17       ` M. Warner Losh
2006-10-23 20:42     ` André Braga

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