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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Srinivasa DS <srinivasa@in.ibm.com>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@suspend2.net>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.19 5/5] fs: freeze_bdev with semaphore not mutex
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:43:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061112184310.GC5081@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200611101303.33685.rjw@sisk.pl>

Hi!

> > Okay, so you claim that sys_sync can stall, waiting for administator?
> > 
> > In such case we can simply do one sys_sync() before we start freezing
> > userspace... or just more the only sys_sync() there. That way, admin
> > has chance to unlock his system.
> 
> Well, this is a different story.
> 
> My point is that if we call sys_sync() _anyway_ before calling
> freeze_filesystems(), then freeze_filesystems() is _safe_ (either the
> sys_sync() blocks, or it doesn't in which case freeze_filesystems() won't
> block either).
> 
> This means, however, that we can leave the patch as is (well, with the minor
> fix I have already posted), for now, because it doesn't make things worse a
> bit, but:
> (a) it prevents xfs from being corrupted and

I'd really prefer it to be fixed by 'freezeable workqueues'. Can you
point me into sources -- which xfs workqueues are problematic?

(It would be nice to fix that for 2.6.19, and full bdev freezing looks
intrusive to me).

> (b) it prevents journaling filesystems in general from replaying journals
> after a failing resume.

I do not see b) as an useful goal.
							Pavel

-- 
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-12 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-07 18:34 [PATCH 2.6.19 5/5] fs: freeze_bdev with semaphore not mutex Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 18:34 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 20:18 ` Mike Snitzer
2006-11-07 20:18   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2006-11-07 20:22   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:34   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 23:34     ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 20:28   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 22:45   ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:00     ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 23:00       ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-08  9:54       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-08  9:54         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-12  6:23       ` Srinivasa Ds
2007-01-12  6:23         ` Srinivasa Ds
2007-01-12 10:16       ` Srinivasa Ds
2006-11-07 23:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:18       ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08  0:01           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08  0:01             ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08  8:27             ` David Chinner
2006-11-08 14:25               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 14:25                 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 14:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 15:25                   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 15:25                     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 23:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:49       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 23:49         ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08  0:00         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08  3:33           ` David Chinner
2006-11-08  2:30         ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08  2:30           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 12:10           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 18:09             ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 15:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 16:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 19:59                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 21:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 21:18                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 21:41                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 22:21                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 23:11                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 23:24                               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-09 23:24                                 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-09 23:32                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 12:03                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-10 12:03                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 18:43                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-11-12 21:53                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 21:53                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 23:30                                       ` David Chinner
2006-11-12 23:30                                         ` David Chinner
2006-11-13 16:11                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-13 16:11                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 18:50                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 18:50                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 19:56                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 19:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 20:00                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 20:23                                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 21:58                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 21:58                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 22:49                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 22:49                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-16 23:20                                                   ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:20                                                     ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:38                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-16 23:38                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-13  7:35                                       ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-10  0:57                             ` David Chinner
2006-11-10  0:57                               ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:39                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 10:39                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-12 22:30                                 ` David Chinner
2006-11-12 22:30                                   ` David Chinner
2006-11-12 22:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 22:43                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-13  5:43                                     ` David Chinner
2006-11-13  5:43                                       ` David Chinner
2006-11-13 16:22                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-13 16:22                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-14  0:10                                         ` David Chinner
2006-11-14  0:10                                           ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:23                                     ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:23                                       ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:40                                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-16 23:40                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-17  1:40                                         ` David Chinner
2006-11-17  1:40                                           ` David Chinner
2006-11-17 15:13                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-17 15:13                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10  0:54                       ` David Chinner
2006-11-10  0:54                         ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:24                       ` Alan Cox
2006-11-10 10:24                         ` Alan Cox
2006-11-10 10:36                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 10:36                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10  0:33                   ` David Chinner
2006-11-10  0:33                     ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:38                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 10:38                       ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-08 20:48             ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-11-08 21:08               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:23   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 23:23     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 23:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-07 23:39     ` Ingo Molnar

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