From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ensure i_ino uniqueness in filesystems without permanent inode numbers (via pointer conversion)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:24:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061117142435.GC18567@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1163770980.13410.39.camel@dantu.rdu.redhat.com>
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:43:00AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> 2) this scheme would effectively leak inode addresses into userspace.
> I'm not sure if that would be exploitable, but it's probably best not to
> do it. The patch adds a static unsigned int that is initialized to a
> random value at boot time. We'll xor the inode offset with this value.
> That should allow for a unique i_ino value, but since the xor mask would
> be secret, it shouldn't be possible to turn it back into an address.
> There may be a more secure way to do this. I'm definitely open to
> suggestions here.
I *think* the xor mask is mere obfuscation. It looks likely that you can
recover it with a little bit of trial and error. If you can force the
filesystem to hand you back new inodes quickly such that there is a high
probability you get consecutive allocations, you'll get a sequence which
would be spaced 700-odd bytes apart, except that it's been xored. Since
you know it's incrementing, if you see the sequence decrease, you'll
know that was a 1 in that bit.
It'd be a bit more complex than that, and cryptanalysis was never my
forte, but I suspect we should either use a folded hash like md5, or
give up and just divide the address by sizeof(struct inode). Sure,
divides are slow, but this is a divide by a constant, so it shouldn't be
that bad.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-17 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-17 13:43 [RFC][PATCH] ensure i_ino uniqueness in filesystems without permanent inode numbers (via pointer conversion) Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 13:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-11-17 14:14 ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-17 14:24 ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 14:21 ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 16:31 ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 14:24 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2006-11-17 14:48 ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 15:01 ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-11-17 15:06 ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 15:26 ` Dave Kleikamp
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