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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@timesys.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com
Subject: Re: [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:54:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061119215421.GK4427@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061119211731.GA151@oleg>

On Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:17:31AM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 11/19, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > > > What happens if synchronize_xxx manages to execute inbetween
> > > > xxx_read_lock's
> > > >
> > > >  		idx = sp->completed & 0x1;
> > > >  		atomic_inc(sp->ctr + idx);
> > > >
> > > > statements?
> > >
> > > Oops. I forgot about explicit mb() before sp->completed++ in synchronize_xxx().
> > >
> > > So synchronize_xxx() should do
> > >
> > > 	smp_mb();
> > > 	idx = sp->completed++ & 0x1;
> > >
> > > 	for (;;) { ... }
> > >
> > > >               You see, there's no way around using synchronize_sched().
> > >
> > > With this change I think we are safe.
> > >
> > > If synchronize_xxx() increments ->completed in between, the caller of
> > > xxx_read_lock() will see all memory ops (started before synchronize_xxx())
> > > completed. It is ok that synchronize_xxx() returns immediately.
> >
> > Yes, the reader will see a consistent picture, but it will have
> > incremented the wrong element of sp->ctr[].  What happens if another
> > synchronize_xxx() occurs while the reader is still running?
> 
> It will wait for xxx_read_unlock() on reader's side. And for this reason
> this idx in fact is not exactly wrong :)

I am not seeing this.

Let's assume sp->completed starts out zero.

o	CPU 0 starts executing xxx_read_lock(), but is interrupted
	(or whatever) just before the atomic_inc().  Upon return,
	it will increment sp->ctr[0].

o	CPU 1 executes synchronize_xxx() to completion, which it
	can because CPU 0 has not yet incremented the counter.
	It waited on sp->ctr[0], and incremented sp->completed to 1.

o	CPU 0 returns from interrupt and completes xxx_read_lock(),
	but has incremented sp->ctr[0].

o	CPU 0 continues into its critical section, picking up a
	pointer to an xxx-protected data structure (or, in Jens's
	case starting an xxx-protected I/O).

o	CPU 1 executes another synchronize_xxx().  This completes
	immediately because it is waiting for sp->ctr[1] to go
	to zero, but CPU 0 incremented sp->ctr[0].  (Right?)

o	CPU 1 continues, either freeing a data structure while
	CPU 0 is still referencing it, or, in Jens's case, completing
	an I/O barrier while there is still outstanding I/O.

Or am I missing something?

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-19 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-16 20:00 BUG: cpufreq notification broken Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 20:15 ` [patch] cpufreq: mark cpufreq_tsc() as core_initcall_sync Ingo Molnar
2006-11-16 20:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 22:03       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 22:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-17  3:06           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-17  6:51             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17  9:29               ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-17 18:39                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18  0:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 16:15                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 17:14                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 19:34                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:26                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 21:00                         ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 21:25                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-18 22:13                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18 22:46                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:12                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:43                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:19                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 17:58                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 19:39                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:13                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 21:39                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21  7:39                                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 18:57                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20 20:01                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-20 20:51                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:04                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 20:54                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 22:07                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:38                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 16:44                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-21 19:56                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 23:03                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-22  2:17                                           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 17:01                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-26 22:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 21:10                                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-28  1:47                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 19:17                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:22                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 17:55                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 17:56                             ` Alan Stern
2006-11-21 19:13                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 20:40                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-11-22 18:08                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-21 21:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-22  0:51                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18 18:46                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20  7:15                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 16:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 17:55                             ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-20 20:09                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-20 20:21                                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-18 19:02                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:23                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:15                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-17 19:27                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18  0:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-18  4:33                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-18  4:51                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-18  5:57                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 19:00                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 20:21                   ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 20:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:09                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-19 21:17                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 21:54                           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2006-11-19 22:28                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-20  5:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-19 21:50                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-19 22:04                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 14:59                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 20:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-23 21:34                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-23 21:49                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27  4:33                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-24 18:21                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-24 20:04                       ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-24 20:47                       ` Alan Stern
2006-11-24 21:13                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25  3:24                           ` Alan Stern
2006-11-25 17:14                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-25 22:06                               ` Alan Stern
2006-11-26 21:34                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27  5:02                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-27 16:11                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-27 16:56                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 19:29                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-29 20:16                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-29 23:08                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-30  0:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-17  2:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-11-16 20:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-11-16 21:20   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-16 21:27     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-20 19:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 20:27 ` BUG: cpufreq notification broken Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:26     ` Alan Stern
2006-11-16 21:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-16 21:56         ` Alan Stern

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