From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1GoxMj-0006kn-3B for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:26:53 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GoxMh-0006iY-Ks for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:26:51 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GoxMg-0006hj-TU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:26:51 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GoxMg-0006ha-DF for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:26:50 -0500 Received: from [212.85.152.101] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GoxMg-0006y2-3K for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 02:26:50 -0500 Received: from kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com (kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com [212.85.152.101]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE93CCA0181 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [??1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584A93CCA017B for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:26:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20061015101842.GC4265@khazad.dyndns.org> <20061127170016.GA5132@aragorn> In-Reply-To: <20061127170016.GA5132@aragorn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200611280826.48370.okuji@enbug.org> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.467163, version=0.17.2 Subject: Re: ping (update-grub2) X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:26:51 -0000 On Monday 27 November 2006 18:00, Robert Millan wrote: > No comments? Are you interested in getting this into the main grub tree? > In my opinion, since update-grub needs a rewrite it's a good oportunity to > merge this now and unify grub.cfg generation across distributions > (something that wasn't possible with the old update-grub because of > copyright issues). > > That said, if you don't like the idea then we could proceed adding it in > debian, but that might close the door to merging in the future (maintaining > the script in debian ourselves implies accepting contributions from many > people without any paperwork arrangements). I describe my own opinion. If others do not agree, let me know. If the script is generic enough, and other projects are willing to use it, it is convenient to put it in official versions ("official" means "upstream" in Debian, but I don't like the term "upstream" very much, BTW). So, in this case, I accept it. But if it is used only for Debian, I don't think it is worth doing. I know it is not so nice to put distribution-specific scripts in official versions with my past experience, because official versions are not always synchronized with distribution versions, so when a script in an official version is "outdated" for a distribution, it is necessary to locally patch the script, and this effort can be quite painful, if you always need to make patches for every version. That's why we don't have the directory "debian" any longer. We had it in GRUB legacy in version 0.5.92 or something when Gordon was the maintainer of the GRUB package in Debian. But this became really annoying after Gordon got inactive, because I had no idea on how to maintain it, as I was not a Debian user then. And, someone (I think he was Jason Thomas) complained, and I decided to drop it from the official version. Okuji