From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1GqYeH-00083O-0D for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:27:37 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GqYeE-00083A-IT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:27:34 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GqYeE-00082y-4c for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:27:34 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GqYeD-00082v-Uw for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:27:33 -0500 Received: from [212.85.152.101] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GqYeD-0000Ss-Mf for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:27:33 -0500 Received: from kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com (kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com [212.85.152.101]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64B3CD0B83A for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:20:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [??1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5850F3CD0B839 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:20:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:27:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <1163545104.12931.49.camel@basalt> <200611250525.00823.okuji@enbug.org> <877ixa2rwd.fsf@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <877ixa2rwd.fsf@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612021827.31945.okuji@enbug.org> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.138599, version=0.17.2 Subject: Re: multiboot2: make multiboot header optional X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:27:35 -0000 On Saturday 02 December 2006 17:18, Marco Gerards wrote: > What is the problem with typing? I do not think this is really > complex? Weird. It was _you_ who pointed out that specifying tags would be annoying = on=20 the IRC... > And this is just in the initial stage of the implementation=20 > of an operating system. I don't think this is a problem, I think > something that is clear from the context, which is the case in Hollis' > proposal will prevent such errors. I do think it is a problem. Whether it is a small portion in OS development= or=20 not does not matter. If it is problematic, it is. Reversely, I ask you a question. What is the real advantage in using tags i= n a=20 Multiboot header? =46rom my point of view, it is not necessarily very extensible or flexible,= as=20 our experience shows that changes to the Multiboot header are rarely demand= ed=20 (so far, only once, IIRC). > > How to abbreviate information does not matter. When one implements an O= S, > > she must put the definition at somewhere anyway. Even if we provide a > > sample implementation, not all people won't use it, because there are > > various assemblers and compilers. For example, if our example is for GNU > > as, nasm users won't use it. So the spec must be simple. > > Can't this be done with nasm? Don't take my words literaly. I just put nasm as an example. There are plen= ty=20 of different languages, and would you like to provide sample code for _all_= =20 languages in the world? Okuji