From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1GrgVN-0006x0-Ne for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:03:05 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrgVM-0006w9-82 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:03:04 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GrgVI-0006vs-Bf for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:03:03 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrgVI-0006vp-60 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:03:00 -0500 Received: from [212.85.152.101] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GrgVH-00079E-KW for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:02:59 -0500 Received: from kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com (kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com [212.85.152.101]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDC03CD54D03 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:57:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [??1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085F53CD54D02 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 23:57:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:02:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <1164913211.4067.46.camel@diesel> <200612021815.52993.okuji@enbug.org> <87y7pn1jk1.fsf@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <87y7pn1jk1.fsf@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612052102.58151.okuji@enbug.org> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.144066, version=0.17.2 Subject: Re: grub2 accessibility: beeps X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:03:04 -0000 On Monday 04 December 2006 21:40, Marco Gerards wrote: > Well, the point that I am trying to make is that I would like to use > hooks for this in some way. So you are not agreeing with the first > alternative I suggested. But you ignored the second alternative, > which was the most important part in my email. You look so offensive to me. Did I ignore it? No! I only didn't mention any opinion about that. > Can you explain what the style sheet would look like? In that case we > can discuss some things so we are all agree so we can work towards the > same goal. I think you remember that I wanted to use a kind of style sheet to specify a fancy menu interface. This fits to the beeping issue. For now, I really don't care how it looks like, as long as it is easy even for non-programmers. I use a CSS-like syntax as an example: grub.css: # The default. menuentry { beep: 1 2 # Whatever these integers mean } # An usual entry. menuentry.usual { beep: 3 4 } # A rescue entry. menuentry.rescue { beep: 5 6 } grub.cfg stylesheet grub.css menuentry --class=usual "Usual OS" { ... } menuentry --class=rescue "Rescue OS" { ... } I didn't mention anything about your idea on hooks, because I only want to separate visual or sound effects from the config file itself. I don't care so much about the underlying implementation, whether it uses hooks or not. That's because I bet that how to boot operating systems is independent of how the menu looks. Okuji