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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] timers, pointers to functions and type safety
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 00:24:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061206002403.GA4587@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28665.1165234964@redhat.com>

On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 12:22:44PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > the question is: which is more important, the type safety of a 
> > container_of() [or type cast], which if we get it wrong produces a 
> > /very/ trivial crash that is trivial to fix

The hell it is.  You get wrong fields of a big struct read and modified.
Silently.

Besides, I can show you fsckloads of cases when we do *NOT* pass a
pointer to struct the timer is embedded into.  Some of them called directly
(and no, the thing they get as argument doesn't point to anything that
would contain a timer_list).

> > structure size all around the kernel? I believe the latter is more 
> > important.
> 
> Indeed yes.

Guys, please, look at actual users of that stuff.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-06  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-01 17:21 [RFC] timers, pointers to functions and type safety Al Viro
2006-12-02  6:29 ` Daniel Berlin
2006-12-02 12:36   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02  9:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-02 12:42   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 20:53     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-12-02 10:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-12-02 12:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 14:05   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 14:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 16:02       ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-12-02 18:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 18:19           ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 18:27             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-02 18:40               ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 18:48                 ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 21:43                 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-02 21:59                   ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 22:13                     ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-02 22:40                       ` Al Viro
2006-12-02 23:06                         ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 10:21                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-03 11:27                             ` Russell King
2006-12-03 15:21                               ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 21:01                                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-03 22:52                                   ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-03 23:15                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-04 11:14                               ` David Howells
2006-12-04 12:16                                 ` Russell King
2006-12-04 13:03                                   ` David Howells
2006-12-04 13:29                                     ` Russell King
2006-12-04 14:17                                       ` David Howells
2006-12-04 14:22                                         ` Russell King
2006-12-04 11:48             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-04 12:22               ` David Howells
2006-12-06  0:24                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2006-12-06 10:20                   ` David Howells
2006-12-12  9:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-02 21:32         ` Roman Zippel

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