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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] KVM updates for 2.6.20-rc2
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:23:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061228112356.GA14386@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4593A4B7.2070404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>


* Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> >NOTE: this is not a worry for upstream kernel, it is caused by 
> >PREEMPT_RT scheduling in previously atomic APIs like kunmap(). But 
> >KVM used to work pretty nicely in -rt and this problem got introduced 
> >fairly recently, related to some big-page changes IIRC.
> 
> This is not a recent change.  The x86 emulator is fetching an 
> instruction or a memory operand.

well, the fact that it's somehow ending up in highmem and thus the kmap 
becomes nontrivial could be a recent change maybe?

> > Any suggestions of how to best fix this in -rt? Basically, it would 
> > be nice to decouple KVM from get_cpu/preempt_disable type of 
> > interfaces as much as possible, to make it fully preemptible.
> 
> kvm on intel uses hidden cpu registers, so it can't be migrated as a 
> normal process. [...]

oh, granted. My suggestion would be to make it more atomic - not to 
break the physical attachment of a KVM context to a physical CPU (which 
is unbreakable, obviously).

> [...] We'd need a hook on context switch to check if we migrated to 
> another cpu, issue an ipi to unload the registers on the previous cpu, 
> and reload the registers on the current cpu.  The hook would need to 
> be protected from context switches.  See vmx.c:vmx_vcpu_load() for the 
> gory details.  The actual launch would require a small non-preemptible 
> section as well, on both intel and AMD.

actually, another, possibly better approach would be to attach a KVM 
context to tasks, automatically loaded/unloaded upon switch_to(). No 
need to do IPIs. Would this be fast enough?

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-28 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-28 10:07 [PATCH 0/8] KVM updates for 2.6.20-rc2 Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:08 ` [PATCH 1/8] KVM: Use boot_cpu_data instead of current_cpu_data Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:09 ` [PATCH 2/8] KVM: Simplify is_long_mode() Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] KVM: Implement a few system configuration msrs Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:11   ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-01  0:07   ` Ingo Oeser
2007-01-01  0:07     ` Ingo Oeser
2007-01-01  8:20     ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-01  8:20       ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:12 ` [PATCH 5/8] KVM: Move common msr handling to arch independent code Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] KVM: More msr misery Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:14 ` [PATCH 7/8] KVM: Rename some msrs Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:14   ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:15 ` [PATCH 8/8] KVM: Fix oops on oom Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:15   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found] ` <45939755.7010603-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 10:10   ` [PATCH 3/8] KVM: Initialize kvm_arch_ops on unload Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 10:33   ` [PATCH 0/8] KVM updates for 2.6.20-rc2 Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <20061228103345.GA4708-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 11:04       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <4593A4B7.2070404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 11:23           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
     [not found]             ` <20061228112356.GA14386-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 12:21               ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 13:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 11:30           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20061228113038.GA16190-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 12:32               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <4593B948.5090009-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 13:37                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20061228133746.GC3392-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 13:49                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <4593CB61.5050709-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 13:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20061228135020.GA7606-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 13:58                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <4593CD74.6060202-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 14:07                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20061228140742.GA10033-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 14:18                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                         ` <4593D243.1030301-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 15:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                             ` <20061228150104.GB16057-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 15:09                                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                 ` <4593DE1D.8010701-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 15:11                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                     ` <20061228151159.GA20279-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 15:25                                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                         ` <4593E1E3.2020800-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2006-12-28 15:28                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 12:42 ` [patch] kvm: fix GFP_KERNEL allocation in atomic section in kvm_dev_ioctl_create_vcpu() Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 12:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 12:56   ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 12:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 13:08       ` [patch, try#2] " Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 13:08         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 13:14         ` Avi Kivity
2006-12-28 13:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-28 13:30             ` Avi Kivity

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