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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	mbligh@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	johnstul@us.ibm.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:38:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070227073815.GA25894@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070227062913.GC1259@elte.hu>

* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> 
> * Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com> wrote:
> 
> > The pit clocksource could be dropped pretty easy with my clocksource 
> > update patches, which I'm still working on but you could easily drop 
> > clock sources that aren't atomic like the pit .. Also the pit is 
> > generally undesirable, so it's not going to be missed.
> 
> that's totally unacceptable, and i'm amazed you are even suggesting it - 
> often the PIT ends up being the most reliable hardware clock in a PC. 
> Btw., what's wrong with the spinlock that is protecting PIT access? It 
> expresses the non-atomic property of the PIT just fine.
> 

I am concerned about the automatic fallback to the PIT when no other
clock source is available. A clocksource read would be atomic when TSC
or HPET are available, but would fall back on PIT otherwise. There
should be some way to specify that a caller is only interested in atomic
clock sources (if none are available, the call should simply return an
error, or 0).

I still think that an RCU style update mechanism would be a good way  to
fix the current clocksource read issue. Another, slower and non NMI
safe way to do this would be with a read seqlock and with IRQ disabling.

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-27  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-02-24 16:19           ` [RFC] Fast assurate clock readable from user space and NMI handler Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-24 18:06             ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 20:53               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 21:27                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-26 22:14                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-26 23:12                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27  3:54                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27  4:22                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27  4:47                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27  6:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-27  7:38                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-02-27  8:48                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-27 10:18                               ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 16:02                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 17:24                                   ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27 19:04                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-02-27 19:40                                       ` john stultz
2007-02-27 20:09                                       ` Daniel Walker
2007-02-27  9:59                             ` Daniel Walker

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