From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1HRA7i-0008FE-Sm for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRA7g-0008Aa-WF for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HRA7f-00089V-7F for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:45:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HRA7f-00089S-4w for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:45:15 -0500 Received: from [212.85.152.101] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HRA6r-0002yF-Gh for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:44:25 -0400 Received: from kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com (kotoba.oasis.nexedi.com [212.85.152.101]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851DF3CEA46E0 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:20:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [??1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C741C3CEA46DF for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:20:46 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:44:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200703051817.19982.okuji@enbug.org> <200703121845.33472.okuji@enbug.org> <87veh571ya.wl@dekkers.cx> In-Reply-To: <87veh571ya.wl@dekkers.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703131744.22340.okuji@enbug.org> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.499951, version=0.17.2 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2007 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:45:17 -0000 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:38, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Well I can always be hit by a bus or anything like that. But I hope it > won't be necessary. Last year, real procedures were always taught only to primary mentors, but not to backup mentors, IIRC. Hollis, weren't they? So I thought, then what is the meaning of having a backup mentor? > We should come up with a idea list today, because tomorrow Google will > begin accepting applications. I think we should just start with > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-soc.html and remove the project > I did last summer. I think all the other tasks still need to be > done. New ideas are welcome too of course. I agree. And this needs to be informed to the gnu's list, because what Google will see is the GNU's list but not ours. http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html > Personally I think one of the important things we have to do is making > GRUB2 a suitable replacement for GRUB Legacy. This means implementing > all the features from GRUB Legacy that GRUB2 doesn't have yet, making > sure that the installer and other tools are all in a good state, > etc. It's a bit difficult to make a task out of that, but IMHO it's > time that GRUB2 gets ready for production use. I fully agree, but I am afraid that this kind of task should be done by long-term contributors rather than newcomers, and SoC is not very suitable. The term of SoC is really short. IMO, it is long enough to implement some clear, straightforward and visible feature, but not for vague, complicated and tiresome work. Anyway, our list just shows examples. Students are free to propose new ideas. In addition, we can obtain only one student from the past experience. If we are unlucky, we can get zero. So I think it is better not to bloat the list too much, but rather expect that students would think of something interesting themselves. Okuji