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From: "Denys" <denys@visp.net.lb>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: iproute2-2.6.20-070313 bug ?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:26:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070322132021.M7074@visp.net.lb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46027FF2.6020001@trash.net>

Dear sir 

Sorry, i forgot to CC other members of discussion.

1024kb (if i am not wrong 1Mbyte) is huge? 

For me it is ok, as soon as i have RAM. Another thing, it is working well 
with old tc. Just really if i have plenty of RAM's and i want 32second 
buffer, why i cannot have that, and if i see it is really possible before? 

Possible i am misunderstanding something...
In real world i am seeing reasonable to have much bigger buffers, especially 
if there is no problem in resources (RAM, timer resolution, CPU). For 
example, as i remember we had failure on one of our STM-1, and Cisco's on 
Teleglobe was buffering about 20-30seconds of data without major packetloss. 

Another thing, why i was using buffer, and possible i use it wrong:
For example customer have 128Kbit/s account, and i want to give him burst to 
open web-pages fast (256Kbit/s), but if he use bandwidth non-stop, he will 
pass this buffer, and will be throttled back to 128Kbit/s. Now seems i cannot 
give such functionality.


On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:09:06 +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote
> Denys wrote:
> > /sbin/tc2 qdisc del dev ppp0 root 
> > /sbin/tc2 qdisc add dev ppp0 root handle 1: prio 
> > /sbin/tc2 qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 handle 2: tbf buffer 1024kb 
latency 
> > 500ms rate 128kbit peakrate 256kbit minburst 16384 
> > /sbin/tc2 filter add dev ppp0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 10 u32 match ip 
dst 
> > 0.0.0.0/0 flowid 2:1
> 
> That is an incredible huge buffer value.
> 
> > qdisc tbf 2: parent 1:1 rate 128000bit burst 4294932937b peakrate
> 256000bit minburst 16Kb lat 4.2s
> 
> And it causes an overflow.
> 
> The limit for the TBF burst value with nanosecond resolution is
> ~ 4 * rate (10^9 * burst / rate < 2^32 needs to hold), resoluting
> in a worst-case latency of 4 seconds. I think this limit is in the
> reasonable range. Your configuration results in a worst-case
> queuing delay of 64s, and I doubt that you really want that.
> 
> Obviously its not good to break existing configurations, but I
> would argue that this configuration is broken.


--
Virtual ISP S.A.L.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-21 18:00 iproute2-2.6.20-070313 bug ? Denys
2007-03-22 11:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-22 12:46   ` Denys
2007-03-22 13:09     ` Patrick McHardy
     [not found]       ` <20070322131245.M85528@visp.net.lb>
2007-03-22 13:23         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-22 13:35           ` Denys
     [not found]           ` <20070322132637.M88445@visp.net.lb>
2007-03-22 13:43             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-22 13:47               ` Denys
2007-03-22 13:26       ` Denys [this message]
2007-03-22 17:12       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-03-22 17:14         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-26 18:49           ` more... iproute2/htb/whatever critical " Denys
2007-03-27 15:10             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-27 15:18               ` Denys
2007-03-27 16:00               ` Denys
2007-03-27 16:21                 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-28 17:38                   ` another " Denys
2007-03-28 23:55                   ` Denys
2007-03-29 10:58                     ` Patrick McHardy
2007-03-31  2:26         ` more iproute2 issues (not critical) Denys
2007-03-31  2:31           ` Denys
2007-03-31 14:16             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-04  0:03         ` one more... iproute commands lockup whole system Denys
2007-04-04  1:10           ` jamal
2007-04-04  1:39             ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-04  2:09               ` jamal
2007-04-04  2:11               ` Denys
2007-04-04 10:55                 ` jamal
2007-04-04 12:56                   ` Denys
2007-04-04 14:10                     ` jamal
2007-04-04 14:35                       ` Denys
2007-04-04 14:13                     ` HTB/act_mirred problem [was: one more... iproute commands lockup whole system] Patrick McHardy
2007-04-04 14:33                       ` jamal
2007-04-04 14:50                         ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-05  1:33                           ` jamal
2007-04-04 13:36                   ` one more... iproute commands lockup whole system Patrick McHardy
2007-04-04 13:58                     ` jamal
2007-04-04 14:07                       ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-04 14:30                         ` jamal
2007-04-04 14:39                           ` Patrick McHardy
2007-04-05  2:14                             ` jamal

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